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Daryl Wood

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How do I move a selected wall by tabbing into the datum offset field and entering a precise distance? Every time I select the wall and begin to move it with the mouse I cannot tab into the offset field and enter a precise dimension without dropping the wall. Just moving the wall and watching the offset field change works only to a preset increment and not necessarily to the offset dimension I need.

I am sure I'm missing something.

Daryl

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When I select a wall, start to drag, I can release & tab to the X,Y Fields (not +-X,Y), enter positions. A dotted cross appears at this location & when I click on it the wall relocates to the new position.

You could also use:

1. Use Modify>Move (Control M)

2. OIP. Select Left, Center or Right, enter XY position.

George

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George, thanks for the reply, but I'm still missing something.

When you "start to drag", I'm assuming you're holding the left mouse button down, and when you "release" I'm assuming you let go of the left mouse button.

When I do that I click-drag the wall and as soon as I let go of the mouse button, the wall stops moving and I cannot get to the offset field to type anything unless I hold the left mouse button down while moving the wall, tab and then type in the offset field with my left hand.

If I use the Ctrl-M move command or the nudge command, the walls disconnect.

Is there any way to click and release to drag and then tab into the offset field to relocate?

Daryl

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Daryl,

I'm doing what you describe & it works for me. I select a wall, start to drag, stop & release the left button. The Offset field appears. When I hit the Tab key, the field is highlighted & I can enter a value.

I haven't used this often. It seems to be sensitive to the timing of the button release after the drag starts. If I perform the select, drag & release QUICKLY - the wall moves to that mouse position. If I PAUSE BRIEFLY before releasing the left button, it allows using the offset field.

Odd.

If you use the other methods I mentioned, you'll have to rejoin the walls.

George

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If you have an existing wall that needs to be changed, select the wall and mouse over the end to move (with the 2D selection tool).

Click on the end to move, start to stretch the wall, and glance up at the Data Display bar. Use the delta x and delta y to reference a change in the length of the line. (Press the TAB key to move in and out of the different options. Press ENTER when ready to lock in a length.) When you get the dashed line, click as you mouse over the dashed line.

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Hi Katie,

No, I'm not trying to rotate, lengthen or shorten the wall, just trying to get it to move acurately without having to reconnect it to adjacent walls--this seems too time consuming for an application as powerful as VW. I just want to move the wall say 2' to the left by inputing the exact distance in the offset field.

I'm fairly new to VW but have had years of experence with many different CAD tools and each has a simple way to move a wall accurately without it disconnecting

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Okay - I'll get there ... =)

When you start to drag the wall to move it's position, hold down the left mouse button. You should then see the offset field in the Data Display Bar. While still holding the mouse button down, enter in an offset value (negative to move to the left or down) and then ENTER. When you click Enter, the wall you started to drag will snap to that distance. You don't get a dashed line like you might expect with other Data Display Bar operations. Simply let go of the left mouse button after pressing ENTER. The wall will adjust to that offset distance.

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Hi Katie,

Yes, you got there. I can make that work but was curious that I had to maintain holding the left mouse button down while imputing in the offset field my offset distance with the left hand. It's just that I'm use to typing with both hands and will have to figure out where the right hand keys are for the left hand to press and to hold the shift key down when I need to input feet and inch (',") symbols. I'll get use to it or figure out some sort of work around. Maybe I can put a clamp on the left mouse button, Ha!

Thanks for your help.

Daryl

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Daryl, for myself, and I'm sure many others, working with VW's is a "left hand keyboard, right hand mouse" thing. Here's a couple tricks which may help: 1) In VW's Pref's, in the "EDIT" tab, Uncheck "click drag drawing". Doing this may take a bit of getting used to, but I find it's much faster and I don't have to continue to hold the mouse button down for many common operations. 2) Use "inches" to enter data. Why? Because then you don't need the " symbol, it's implied. HTH's

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Daryl,

I think it works for me because a selected object will stay "glued" to my pointer if I keep the button depressed for a couple of seconds. It's not a VW thing. It does this in most programs, scroll bars & Windows Explorer. So when I select a wall & start to drag, when I release, VW reacts as though I still had the button depressed. It doesn't release until I click again.

Katie,

It's a not easy for a righty to hold down the mouse and enter numbers on the keypad.

George

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Hi Peter,

I did have the "click drag drawing" checkbox unchecked. As far as (") is concerned, I'm aware of it being implied, I was just making a point at the cumbersomeness of entering 2'3 1/2 might be with the left hand--I'm not very good at it. Maybe I can get real good at never using my right hand on the keyboard in VW.

Thanks,

Daryl

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George,

I totally understand.

Last week I was in Seattle at a builder's trade show. I had to give a presentation in a room on the show floor. You can imagine how loud the builder shows can be!

While I had a mic, it wouldn't attach to my shirt well enough that people could hear me over the noise. As a result I had to hold the little mic next to my mouth, use a mouse, and type all at the same time. I had a new found love for clip on microphones that clip on and stay put after that day !!

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ON MAC:

Click and select the wall, start move the wall, hold down space bar and release the mouse while hold down the space bar, now the wall is glued to pointer and you can press the tab key and enter the value in the offset field, with the right or the left hand.

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