KHDESIGN Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 We are having trouble with the texture or color not showing up when showing elevations or perspectives. It always comes up as grey. Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Make sure you have the class(es) that use the various textures for the different parts of the column set to be visible in the viewports. Quote Link to comment
D Wood Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Katie Sorry, but I'm not even to the point of selecting Viewports - I can't get brick columns to show brick when I render the model in a design layer. I have a class for brick walls which has brick tecture selected for left, right & centre - this works fine for walls but not for columns. In the OIP for each column I have brick also selected under Render, but under both Fast and Final Render, columns come out grey while walls show brick. Incidentally, I don't see anywhere a facility for differentiating parts of the column as you post implies. What am I doing wrong? Quote Link to comment
Jim_Allen Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 David, What I did for a column in a set design. Created the 'skin' with the Round Wall Tool with its thickness set to - your preference,extrude to the height you need, and then apply the (in my case it was a stone) texture. Rendered fine for me. Could it be a problem with your texture? Quote Link to comment
G_Hannigan Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 The Column Object uses Style Classes. Select the Column Tool, click on the Preferences Button. At the botton of the window that opens are: Shaft Finish, Capital Finish and Base Finish. You can select None or Style 1 thru 15. If you select something OTHER than None, that class will be added to your file and you can assign a Texture to that Style Class. You should see these textures on the Column when you render without having to add a skin. George Quote Link to comment
D Wood Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Thank you, it worked like a charm. However, I take it there is no way of texturing a column made by extruding a rectangle using AEC>COLUMN - you have to start with a column drawn with the palette tool, is that right? And there is no way of changing the Style-1 title to something else, like say Wall-Column? Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 You can't change the name of the Style classes - these are used by numerous objects. If you use AEC>Column to create the column, you cannot apply a texture to different "parts" of the column. Essentially, this way of creating a column is nothing more than an extrude called a column. To create a column this way, create the base shape as a 2D object. With this object selected, run the column command. You can apply a texture to these types of columns via the Render tab of the Obj Info Palette. Quote Link to comment
G_Hannigan Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 (edited) Katie, I'm using 12.5 Arch. Where is the Column Command? My menu shows AEC>Pillar, not Column. This creates an object which seems to be the same as an extrude. How do you adjust the mapping to get an Image based texture, such as brickwork to display properly? Doesn't it get stretched through the extrude? I can only get the mapping to work by converting to 3D Polys and adjusting the mapping on each Poly. George Edited November 2, 2006 by George Hannigan Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 The column command got renamed to Pillar. The pillar is limited to 3 mapping types. You may have better luck by simply using an extrude in this case. Quote Link to comment
G_Hannigan Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Other than being assigned the name "Pillar" at creation, what's the point in having it if you can't get it to render properly? George Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 They insert into walls and serve as support beans in architectural terms. An extrude cannot do this. Quote Link to comment
D Wood Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Katie Beans?? So in v12xx, do you have 3 options now, a column with base, shaft and capital (palette tool), an extrude called Column (AEC>Column) and another one called Pillar (shouldn't it be Pilaster?) which can be attached to a wall? In classical terms, a pilaster is the column at the end of a row, against a wall, usually 1/2 - 2/3 the depth of a free standing column. Quote Link to comment
G_Hannigan Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 2 Options. I think she means that the Column command has been re-named Pillar. I'm using 12.5 and the menu structure is AEC>Pillar, in 11.5 it is AEC>Column - same item, new name. Nomenclature aside, the AEC>Column/Pillar can be joined to a wall. It lacks some of the render characteristics of an extrude. George Quote Link to comment
D Wood Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Yes, I should have looked at my palette before posting - v11.5 already has a Pilaster tool. I must say I prefer Column to Pillar myself, can't see the point of that change. A column is clearly free standing, whereas a pillar can be either free standing or attached. Quote Link to comment
mike m oz Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 The menu command name should revert back to column. More correct. Definitions from Francis Ching's "A visual Dictionary of Architecture": Column - A rigid relatively slender structural member designed primarily to support axial compressive loads applied at member ends. Pillar - an upright, relatively slender shaft or structure, usually of brick or stone, used as a buiding support or standing alone as a monument. Columns are relatively simple elements. Pillars tend to have decoration added to them. Quote Link to comment
G_Hannigan Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 They probably got stuck with a tool & a menu command sharing the same name, but differing somewhat in function. How about merging the functions of the Menu>Pillar(old Column) and the Tool>Column into a single Tool - "Column". The Tool Palette would then have the Column tool and the Pillar tool in one place? Quote Link to comment
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