Plani_Choix_Mike Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Quicky, what is recommended for an alternative or post rendering software? - Artlantis - Cinema 4D - Sketch Up Or any other suggestions. Remember, I am trying to do exterior architectural renderings for residential promotion brochures. Thanks Quote Link to comment
grant_PD Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 While cinema4d and artlantis are more closely related, I would still say that these programs all have their inherent strengths and weaknesses based upon what your needs are. Take a close look at each programs websites. You will see that they all have galleries of work done by users. Decide which rendering style you are striving for, which aspects of the programs best suit your needs. Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Cinema 4D is very powerful, including such things as render farm capabilities, but it has a steep learning. Artlantis is easy to learn, very fast and creates very good renders (it's what I mainly use): http://www.artlantis.com/community/galerie/index.php?cla=note Another option you might like to look at for very high-end realistic renders is Maxwell Renderer: http://www.maxwell.com/ SketchUp is a great modelling and presentation tool for the conceptual stage of design. Quote Link to comment
G_Hannigan Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 C4D might be overkill if you only use it for still renders. There is still no VW to C4D plugin available for 12.5. VW 12.5 to Artlantis plugin has been updated. Less of a learning curve, because it is primarily a rendering solution with some animation. George Quote Link to comment
Bart Rammeloo Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Another option you might like to look at for very high-end realistic renders is Maxwell Renderer: http://www.maxwell.com/ Have you ever tried Maxwell? It produces great results, but it's even slower than Radiosity in RenderWorks. Artlantis R produces great results and has a very good interface, but it has the same limitations as before: once you want to get rid of the render artefacts, you're stuck. Quote Link to comment
G_Hannigan Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 I wouldn't go near Next Limit's Maxwell - check out what has gone on during the release over the last year: http://www.dugge.de/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=196135246b7fb4e2615eab5a0963ba9c Don't go by the official Maxwell forum - those who complained have been banned. Plus the render times for anything acceptable are in days or weeks unless you have a render farm. As far as I know there is no refund policy. George Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Thanks for that George. Makes you appreciate NNA's techboard all the more. I suggested Maxwell without having ever used it, but their gallery of images really is second to none. By the way the link I provided was actually incorrect: http://www.maxwellrender.com/ Quote Link to comment
Jim_Allen Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 I checked out the Arlantis web site and could not find any prices. Anyone know how much Sketchup and Arlantis Studio or R cost? Quote Link to comment
alanmac Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Maxwell has great potential but its a shining example of how not to launch a program onto the market. If you are in the mood to look at alternative programs here is one for any Mac based readers to take a look at. Cheetah3D. http://www.cheetah3d.com/about.php If you do a search or look at the gallery you'll see some good representative images of what can be achieved, but as with any program its down to the skill of the user to extract the best results possible from the tools provided. I hope and believe it has a great future. When you see what it can do then look at the price. Because of my Apple and Windows working environment I have not tried the demo but if I go all Apple I'll certainly look seriously at replacing my Cinema 4D program with this. Another one to evaluate is Piranesi, if you want to create the style of illustration used pre computer photorealistic with its more illustrative style of render. http://www.informatix.co.uk/piranesi/product_information.shtml regards Alan Quote Link to comment
alanmac Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Jim You need to be looking at the www.artlantis.com rather than the old Abvent site, and in turn that will probably direct you to a local distributor. It does have a time linked demo to download, only hope you have a good fast internet link, its about 300mb. Alan Quote Link to comment
G_Hannigan Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Marketing blunders aside, Maxwell is VERY slow, unless you have a spare computer to devote to rendering. Note the times for these images: http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19054 George Quote Link to comment
alanmac Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 (edited) Hi George Yes I agree, the render times are just way too long for the timeframe most of us work in, I'm sure. If they can get this down to at least the equivalent of others it would be something, but for many early adopters and how they were treated the damage has been done and are looking elsewhere. Ease of applying materials, finishes, lighting etc, speed of render, and ease of use gets me going back to Artlantis every time. Need to persuade my boss to upgrade to R or Studio. Alan P.S. They won't let you look at images without registering by the way. Edited October 6, 2006 by alanmac Quote Link to comment
Dave_Donley Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 (edited) I checked out the Arlantis web site and could not find any prices. Anyone know how much Sketchup and Arlantis Studio or R cost? Hello Jim: (In the US) RW 12 is $450, (physically-accurate light brightness and color, advanced light objects, volumetric lighting, HDRI and HDRI export, IES light support, Quicktime export, QTVR and VRML export, Piranesi export, radiosity, Artistic RW, 100s of pre-made textures, pre-made image props, integration with VW features, etc etc etc) Artlantis R is $645 Artlantis Studio is $1000 C4D + Advanced Render is $1420 Add texture content, RPCs, objects $$$ Edited October 10, 2006 by Dave_Donley_At_Home Quote Link to comment
APE Design Ctr Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I am a fan of Cinema 4D. The VW Exchange plugin doesnt like any symbol that has more than 1000 vertices. I wish there was a workaround, but some of my AutoCad imported items dont translate properly. Really nice software though. Quote Link to comment
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