Ken Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 A Chain Dimension no longer seems to be a chain of dimensions. The entire chain becomes a single entity. How can I select a middle dimension to modify? Anybody else? Quote Link to comment
Ray Libby Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to do but they edit for me using the 2D cursor in Interactive Scaling Mode. There is also some options when you right click on the chain dimension. Quote Link to comment
Ken Posted September 16, 2006 Author Share Posted September 16, 2006 Maybe a Macintosh-only bug. I can't select just a middle dimension like I used to. Quote Link to comment
mike m oz Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Arch.Ken - If you have your associative dimensioning turned on then the dimension will update to moves of the associated element. - You can Decompose a dimension string into its individual dimensions, and conversely you can Compose individual dimensions into a string. I like this new single string capability, and being able to add or delete dimensions by right clicking on the dimension line. It is a big improvement. Quote Link to comment
Ray Libby Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Click on Chain Dimension Preferences and choose Use Individual Dimensions. But you may find Chain Dimensions to be a powerful tool if you look into it. Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 You should be able to right click on the one chain and select Edit Dimension to make appropriate changes. If there's something specific that is not working when you use this path, please include that in your post. Quote Link to comment
Ken Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 A picture is worth a thousand words. How can I delete the dimension circled in red? It used to work prior to 12.5. Quote Link to comment
G_Hannigan Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 1. Decompose 2. Delete unwanted dimension 3. Select the remaining dimensions & Compose. Results in 2 Chain Dimensions. Quote Link to comment
Ken Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 (edited) Previous to 12.5 I did not have to go through those extra steps of decomposing/recomposing. Deleting pieces was much quicker. What's the advantage of keeping them as a single entity? We can always use SelectObj(((C='Dimension') & (T=Dimension))) for global editing. Is this a new feature or a new bug? Feels like a bug. It slows me down. I see how to delete a witness line instead of a dimension, but it still does NOT do what I want, which is to leave the other dimensions untouched. How to delete just one "dimension?" Edited September 18, 2006 by Arch.Ken Quote Link to comment
ionw Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Right click in the dimension in red. Select Delete Dimension. Quote Link to comment
G_Hannigan Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 See Ray's comment above. When you Choose "Use Individual Dimensions" in the Chain Dimension Prefs, you can create a chain as you did in your example and delete one dimension. If you use the "Use Chain Dimension Objects" option you have to use my process. George Quote Link to comment
Ken Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 Oh! I see! Is that a new mode button or does it just have a different default now? Thanks! Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 The whole Chain Dimensioning tool was rehauled for 12.5 to have it create true chain dimensions. The problem prior to 12.5 is that the "chain dimension" created a series of dimensions, but they were not linked or "chained" together. This presented alot of work in the event that the text line of the chain dimension needed to be moved. Moving each of the individual dimension items was ALOT of work. Now, as you move one line, the rest move with them. In addition, the chain dim tool is associative, so as you push and pull on items linked to the chain, the dimensions also update appropriately. In short - yes, it's a new option for Chain Dims. You may find that, in most cases - especially with exterior building dimensions - the new mode saves a ton of time. Quote Link to comment
Ken Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 As I look more into it, you're absolutely right. The added benefits outweigh my tiny little burden (of having to click on that mode button each time). But I must say that I've already developed the old drafting temperament (from pencil-and-paper days) of *composing* my dimensions, mentally and using guidelines, to avoid such pushing and pulling and realigning after they're drawn. Now with the new capabilities you describe, it's all too easy to modify afterwards! Kudos to Katie and NNA! Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I wish I could take credit for doing the work of the Chain Dim tool, but that thanks goes to Ian. I'll be sure to pass it forward. I showed this at a user group event last Thursday and this feature got the most praise. Quote Link to comment
Ken Posted September 19, 2006 Author Share Posted September 19, 2006 I wish I could take credit for doing the work of the Chain Dim tool, but that thanks goes to Ian... No kidding!? Then please forward a request to Ian to create a Vectorscript procedure to control the mode buttons. I would like to include it in the script I use to set my defaults upon launch. All these new mode buttons, while nice, are getting unwieldy. Quote Link to comment
Ken Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 SelectObj((C='Dimension') & (T=Dimension)) does not work for this new "chain dimension" object. Any help? Should I cross-post in the VS forum? Quote Link to comment
Amy L Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 You may find that, in most cases - especially with exterior building dimensions - the new mode saves a ton of time. Unless you ever have to revise parts or all of your drawing by moving or flipping (which is all the time, in my case), otherwise it's great. Quote Link to comment
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