hide wall lines

[beanus]

I don't seem to be able to hide wall lines in plan view when creating openings. instead I get red lines. I've tried changing the 2d visualisation attributes but this doesn't have any effect. in version 2025 there was an option to hide the wall lines but this has disappeared in version 2026, what am I missing? 

 

[Tom W.]

I suspect your Walls extend below the bottom of the Doors + therefore the red lines are Wall geometry seen below the cut plane, the attributes + visibility of which is controlled by the Attributes Below Cut Plane class. See the 'Wall Attributes' dialog if it's a styled Wall or the 'Bel Attr Cls' setting in the OIP if it's unstyled.

 

Similar lines can be generated by the Doors themselves via the Header + Wall Lines parts ('2D Visualisation' pane) but I don't think that's what you're seeing here. Could say for sure if you posted a file.

 

There are lots of threads on the changes to Walls in VW2026 plus a post + video on the Knowledgebase + another video on the University.

[beanus]

yep the walls did extend below the bottom of the doors so I've raised the base of the walls to equal the doors. When i put a window in I get the same problem and the only way I can overcome this is to add the cill, why have things been changed, is there a benefit?

[beanus]

so why aren't the plugin options included in the object info palette, this just seems to make life more difficult! 

[Tom W.]

13 minutes ago, beanus said:

When i put a window in I get the same problem and the only way I can overcome this is to add the cill

 

As I said the geometry is controlled by the Attributes Below Cut Plane class so make a class, assign the geometry to it then change the attributes so looks the way you want or turn the class off.

 

14 minutes ago, beanus said:

why have things been changed, is there a benefit?

 

Yes. Walls needed reengineering so they worked more efficiently under the hood. This will allow new features to be incorporated more quickly/easily + things such as sloping walls to be developed in future. The Top/Plan graphics are now derived from the 3D geometry whereas previously (bizarrely) it was the other way around.

[beanus]

according to the instructional videos the Attributes Below Cut Plan should be able to be selected from the Object Info Palette but as you can see from the screen grab this item is greyed out, I eventually found the option in the Edit Wall Style palette under Edit Wall attributes, should i be able to select the class from here?

 

 

[Tom W.]

1 minute ago, beanus said:

according to the instructional videos the Attributes Below Cut Plan should be able to be selected from the Object Info Palette but as you can see from the screen grab this item is greyed out, I eventually found the option in the Edit Wall Style palette under Edit Wall attributes, should i be able to select the class from here?

 

 

 

If the Wall is styled the 'Bel Attr Cls' setting in the OIP is greyed-out because it is controlled by style not by instance. If you unstyle the Wall the 'Bel Attr Cls' setting becomes editable.

 

[beanus]

ah I see, its not straight forward though, my one grey cell is struggling with all this new information!  

[Tom W.]

They should add number of brain cells to the minimum system requirements 😆

[beanus]

nope still having problems with wall lines, I'm about to throw the computer out the window after I've knocked it around democratically 😠😡please can this be simplified as it was before.

[Tom W.]

Post a file showing what the problem is, it's genuinely not that complex + ultimately (I think) an improvement on how it was previously 

[beanus]

I think I get it now, the wall lines show in design layers but not in but not in the viewports in sheet layers where they can be turned on and off

[Tom W.]

6 minutes ago, beanus said:

I think I get it now, the wall lines show in design layers but not in but not in the viewports in sheet layers where they can be turned on and off

 

'Wall lines' can be one of three different things:

 

1) the Wall itself viewed below the cut plane

2) the 'Header' part of a Door or Window

3) the 'Wall Lines' part of a Door or Window

 

There is no difference between the Design Layer or a Viewport in times of how any of this geometry displays, it's just that you can have different class or detail level settings for your Viewport.

 

Post a file.

[beanus]

nope still getting problems, I cant seem to get rid of the wall lines on internal walls . There seems to be so many places that have to checked, I still feel this has made things over complicated. Does anyone else have problems with this or is it just me being a bit thick!

[Tom W.]

It is more complicated than it needs to be. I believe Wall Lines is slated to be removed: it is surplus to requirements but i think was kept for now to not disrupt the workflows of those who were already using it. If that happens will be a lot simpler.

[Tom W.]

But what you need to do is go into the settings for your Door or Window + in the 2D Visualisation pane put the 'Header' part in one class (e.g. 'Door-Header') + the 'Wall Lines' part in another class (e.g. 'Door-Wall Lines'). Now toggle each of those classes on + off + edit the attributes + it should be clear where the lines you're seeing are coming from.

 

The Wall Lines geometry can also be completely turned off by setting it to invisible at all detail levels in the Detail Levels pane (which I'd advise doing, and just relying on the Header part if you want to do a RCP).

[beanus]

see now I'm forgetting the older way to get rid of lines that show up in openings, I just needed to turn off the Ceiling main class 😵‍💫I'll get the hang of it one day, if I live that long!!!