Graphic Legend not reporting correct dimensions

[Dick Jenkins]

All of my windows are set to have a head height from the frame of 6'11 1/2" in the "Settings" of each window and the OI Pallet. The Graphic Legend is showing three different heights for these windows. The windows are all constructed the same and the other windows in the project display properly. They are all on the same floor. What could be happening?

[Jonathan Pickup]

If you edit the annotations and add a manual dimension, is it correct?

[Milindsinh S. AKA Milu]

did you test different settings in annotation ? try it 

 

Edited June 8 by Milindsinh

[Dick Jenkins]

Well I can go to each cell and manually change each one , but I thought the whole point of the legend automatically giving the dimensions was to save the time and effort of doing each one manually. The legend should be reporting the same dimension as the window settings.

[Dick Jenkins]

1 minute ago, Milindsinh said:

did you test different settings in annotation ? try it 

 

I did and the settings are the same for all three doors.

[Hugues]

@Dick Jenkins If this is working fine with all other windows in the project, my guess is that there is something about these windows and the walls they are inserted into that is different. Maybe the bottom of these walls are slightly offset from the floor. Also, they could set in the settings with head height from the frame of 6'11 1/2", but that doesn't they are constrained to that height. They could have been moved. Check their Z elevation on the OIP. If it's not 0,  that would explain the different heights relative to the floor.

[Dick Jenkins]

1 hour ago, Hugues said:

@Dick Jenkins If this is working fine with all other windows in the project, my guess is that there is something about these windows and the walls they are inserted into that is different. Maybe the bottom of these walls are slightly offset from the floor. That would explain the different heights relative to the floor.

Two of the windows are in the same wall and all three of them are in the same room.

On 6/8/2025 at 2:46 PM, Milindsinh said:

did you test different settings in annotation ? try it 

 

I did and the settings are the same for all three doors.

[Tom W.]

@Dick Jenkins it's going to be a lot easier for people to work out what's going on if you were able to post a small file that demonstrated the issue...

[Hugues]

37 minutes ago, Dick Jenkins said:

Two of the windows are in the same wall and all three of them are in the same room.

And the Z value on the OIP for all the windows is the same and that Z value is 0 ?

[Dick Jenkins]

The offending windows were types "G", "H", and "I". "G" and "H" are now reporting correctly, but "I" is an inch off.

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[Dick Jenkins]

1 minute ago, Hugues said:

And the Z value on the OIP for all the windows is the same and that Z value is 0 ?

Yes

[Tom W.]

1 hour ago, Dick Jenkins said:

The offending windows were types "G", "H", and "I". "G" and "H" are now reporting correctly, but "I" is an inch off.

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Hmm I'm at a loss as to why that particular Window was not displaying at the correct height in the GL: it is sitting 1" too low so the dim as actually correct, it's just the window is not conforming to the Design Layer height. However, when I copied the GL + unstyled it + isolated the H + I windows the I window started displaying correctly...

 

 Perhaps the GL was corrupted somehow? 🤷‍♂️ Perhaps someone else can say more...

 

(By the way be great next time if you could isolate the objects in question in a smaller sample file + make it clearer where + what the problem is... 🙂)

[Dick Jenkins]

6 minutes ago, Tom W. said:

 

Hmm I'm at a loss as to why that particular Window was not displaying at the correct height in the GL: it is sitting 1" too low so the dim as actually correct, it's just the window is not conforming to the Design Layer height. However, when I copied the GL + unstyled it + isolated the H + I windows the I window started displaying correctly...

 

 Perhaps the GL was corrupted somehow? 🤷‍♂️ Perhaps someone else can say more...

 

(By the way be great next time if you could isolate the objects in question in a smaller sample file + make it clearer where + what the problem is... 🙂)

Thanks for taking a look Tom. I did not know how to isolate it and maintain the original file structure. One of the problems I have with our projects is they take so long (thank you San Francisco) I never get to finish them in the version of VW that I started them in. I used to try and stay in the original versions, but we usuall have five or more projects going and it just became too hard to keep them all straight, plus new versions of VW occasionally have a feature that really really helps. This project was started in VW2023. I have thought that was the reason for the problem, but I wanted to see if others were able to see something I didn't.

I'm hoping to get another client here in North Carolina where the projects last six months or less.

[Tom W.]

I think it's OK to update projects multiple times to new versions. I do the same without major issue. I think the benefits of new functionality outweigh the hassle of any updating of objects that might be involved.

[Hugues]

@Dick Jenkins
 

We’ve identified the issue with the window type “I” in your Graphic Legend. This window has the ID Label W-10, and there are two instances of it in your document, each with different elevation settings.

One instance is placed on the layer "(N) Floor Plan -1"

The other is on the layer "Object Creation - Millwork Finished", with its elevation set to 6'10 1/2"

The Graphic Legend is currently displaying the image based on the instance located on "Object Creation - Millwork Finished", as it is the first one found with the matching ID Label.

Please note that when the Graphic Legend reports elements based on a parameter—in your case ID Label—and multiple elements share that parameter, it will create the image based on the first matching instance it finds. In your case, not all W-10 windows are identical, so the instance used to create the image may not reflect your expectations.
 

Your Window Schedule does not show the same this issue because its criteria are restricted to list only windows on the layers "(N) Floor Plan -1" and "(N) Floor Plan -2".
You could fix the setting of the window on the layer "Object Creation - Millwork Finished"  or adjust the criteria in your Graphic Legend to ensure it references only the intended window instances.

 

Hope this helped.

[Dick Jenkins]

Wow that is amazing that you looked into it. Thank you so much! I am still pretty weak in knowing how to set the correct criteria for worksheets, data tags and graphic legends. It is another one of those things that does not seem intuitive to me but does to all the old timers who got into Vectorscript.

[Tom W.]

3 hours ago, Hugues said:

@Dick Jenkins
 

We’ve identified the issue with the window type “I” in your Graphic Legend. This window has the ID Label W-10, and there are two instances of it in your document, each with different elevation settings.

One instance is placed on the layer "(N) Floor Plan -1"

The other is on the layer "Object Creation - Millwork Finished", with its elevation set to 6'10 1/2"

The Graphic Legend is currently displaying the image based on the instance located on "Object Creation - Millwork Finished", as it is the first one found with the matching ID Label.

Please note that when the Graphic Legend reports elements based on a parameter—in your case ID Label—and multiple elements share that parameter, it will create the image based on the first matching instance it finds. In your case, not all W-10 windows are identical, so the instance used to create the image may not reflect your expectations.
 

Your Window Schedule does not show the same this issue because its criteria are restricted to list only windows on the layers "(N) Floor Plan -1" and "(N) Floor Plan -2".
You could fix the setting of the window on the layer "Object Creation - Millwork Finished"  or adjust the criteria in your Graphic Legend to ensure it references only the intended window instances.

 

Hope this helped.

 

Aha that'll be why it worked in my second Graphic Legend: because I isolated the two Windows I was looking at by adding criteria to restrict the search to two User Field 1 values.