Skirting Boards

[JMLStevenYoung]

Good day,

 

Looking for a bit of advice here, as I'm a bit stumped.

 

So, I've created a "Skirting Board" for my Wall types using an internal Wall layer that is controlled by a Skirting Board "level" in my ground floor Story.

 

Now, the result is working great, and means that when I draw any walls, it automatically comes with a basic Skirting Board and joins up like my plasterboard.  

 

The Skirting Board level isn't a layer, so isn't visible, making this idea work a treat.

 

However, there is an issue with the wrapping.

 

In 3d, as per the image attached, it looks brilliant, working a charm.  However, on plan, this is a different story.  

 

I have attached an image of the plan as well as my wrap settings.

 

Any thoughts on why it's not wrapping?  Is it a cut plane issue?  

[JMLStevenYoung]

So, I did a bit of tweaking.  It's not 100% accurate.  But I changed the custom thickness of the Plasterboard and Skirting to 10 and 10 so that it matches the 20mm thickness of the window return, which I might change.  It's trial and error just now.

 

This fixed the window cill issue.

 

However, it still wasn't showing the skirting board.  So I changed it to full height and it shows up fine.  So I think it's cutting plane issue?  But why does it show the cill etc?  

 

Any help much appreciated.

[rDesign]

If you copy and paste that window & wall assembly into a new file and post it, you might have better luck in getting someone to help figure it out. @Matt Panzer is the resident wrapping expert.

Edited March 6 by rDesign

[JMLStevenYoung]

File added for reference.

 

Apologies for the delay, got dragged on to other things.

Skirting Board.vwx

[Matt Panzer]

The root of the issue is that wall components are not designed to be used as trim objects.  While this can be a convenient way to show skirting, we want to create a more proper way to have trim in the future.

 

That aside, I'd like to explain a bit how Top/Plan graphics are currently created when using wall closures so you can better understand what you're seeing:  Wall closure profiles and wrapping can be quite complex and the best way to represent them in Top/Plan is to take a horizontal section through their 3D geometry.  So, the Top/Plan graphics of a wall takes sections of the wall closure at the insert and combines it with the wall's usual 2D graphics.  This works very well if all. wall component pass through the cut plane of the closure but not so well otherwise.  The reason you see the skirting board along the wall between inserts is because the wall generated 2D graphics assume all components are cut but it doesn't show at the closure because the 3D skirt board doesn't pass through the cut plane.  Also, the window sill currently fits itself to the outside profile of all components at the closure.  That's the reason there is a gap between it and the plasterboard.

 

Note:  We are continuing with more wall reengineering efforts moving forward that will allow more improvements in these areas.

[JMLStevenYoung]

I did wonder if it had something to do with the cutting plane through the wall, so that makes a lot of sense!  Thanks for the detailed response, very helpful.

 

I'll maybe continue using it for any 3d presentations, but will await future updates before we look at integrating them fully.

 

Thank you.

[Matt Panzer]

2 hours ago, JMLStevenYoung said:

I did wonder if it had something to do with the cutting plane through the wall, so that makes a lot of sense!  Thanks for the detailed response, very helpful.

 

I'll maybe continue using it for any 3d presentations, but will await future updates before we look at integrating them fully.

 

Thank you.

 

You're welcome!

Yeah. there's a lot at play with how these things create graphics for Top/Plan.  As we move forward, we plan to streamline things to provide more consistent results.