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I'm working in Spotlight, but suspect this may apply to all workspaces. My specific dilemma is that with Spotlight not having hybrid symbols for receptacles/switches available, I'm creating my own. The creation of the symbol itself is no issue. For my use, I'm focusing on the 3D symbol and 2D Plan view. I have both of these created and basically functioning fine. But I would like the 2D Plan view to NOT scale to my viewport scale. In other words, if my design layer is 1:1 but my viewport is 1:50, I want my 2D plan view of my symbol to remain at 1:1 and not scale to 1:50 in my viewport. This way, I can have a floor plan at 1:50 and an expanded floor plan for a particular room at 1:20 and both viewports show the 2D Plan view of my symbol as the same size on the sheet layer. Is there a trick or another workflow I need to do to make this happen?

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Welcome to the forum.

 

You are correct.  Your question is workspace agnostic.

 

There are four kinds of symbols.  Usually identified by the color of the letters in their names in the resource manager.

 

The symbols you meet everyday walking down the street are black symbols.  They use the current scale of a design layer or viewport and keep their size accurate in the world of the drawing.

 

You want a green symbol.  It's like a black symbol, but the size of the object is always "page based". It's the same size no matter what the scale of the design layer or viewport is.  (One use case:  I like to use green symbols for fancy north arrow symbols.  That way it doesn't matter if I put the symbol in the viewport annotation or just on the sheet layer someplace.  If I do put them inside the viewport annotation they don't change size with the viewport scale).

 

So I think this would work for you:

 

Make a symbol that is just the 3D part of the receptacle.  Just a regular black symbol.

Make a symbol that is just the 2D part of the receptacle.  When making this symbol in the Units section click on Page-based. (This is what makes it a green symbol.)

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Select both symbols.  Make a 3rd symbol (back to world based) that contains your Page-based 2D symbol and your 3D World-based symbol.  You will want to make sure that they all share an insertion point.

 

I'm pretty sure that will work.

 

One cool thing you can do in sheet layer viewports:  

Select the viewport.

In the OIP hit the Advanced Properties… button

There is a page symbol scaling field that defaults to 1.  This ONLY applies to Page-based symbols.  But you can adjust the relative size of the Page-based symbols per viewport.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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