data tag for curtains part 2

[Peter Telleman]

@Mirko Guhr

 

Yes, we label everything manually now, which is horribly time consuming, which is the reason I'm now looking in to making that easier.

The only plus to doing everything manually is that you end up checking everything again 🙂

And sorry, the height of the truss is now 0 meters, but that can of course be anything. 

 

On your suggestion for a way to determine inside and outside, that sounds like a good way to do it, but I need to see it to really give a comment on it.

Edited September 26, 2024 by Peter Telleman

[Mirko Guhr]

@Peter Telleman

Something like this could also happen under certain circumstances, right? Referring to the arrangement of the fabrics.

(This was just quickly created manually)

[Peter Telleman]

@Mirko Guhr

 

Yes, potentially all mixes are possible, and it's also not always three curtains, sometimes there's two or one curtain per truss. But I would be totally fine with still mentioning 3 lines, one or two would just be empty then?

 

Is the blacck a spelling mistake in my template? 😜

Edited September 26, 2024 by Peter Telleman

[Mirko Guhr]

@Peter Telleman

No, blacck was again the human error 😄.

Okay, now it’s getting interesting.

If only one fabric appears in the section (group), it can also be attached at different positions and should be reflected in the data Tag?

Example:

[Mirko Guhr]

@Peter Telleman

not more than 3, correct?

[Mirko Guhr]

@Peter Telleman

That would mean that the dataTag represents the attachment points of the curtains on the truss.

I don’t think I can modify the data stamp as easily as I would like. My skills aren’t quite there yet.

We might also need a second script that processes the generated data stamps afterward and deletes the unnecessary lines. But that’s too far off. I can’t manage that yet 😄.

[Peter Telleman]

You're right with the two examples, and yes, it's 1, 2, or 3, never more.

And you're miles ahead of me, so I'm in awe as it is 🙂

Actually, the tag representing the order as it is makes perfect sense, no need to say inside, outside, or anything. The order of the tag is the order it is on the truss. The only thing with that is that on vertical trusses the tag then needs to be vertical as well, to be consistently clear.

[Mirko Guhr]

@Peter Telleman

I have fallen a good bit deeper again 😄 and I have an idea.

Yes, the vertical truss idea also crossed my mind, and it doesn’t make things easier.

Example:

There are two stage areas separated by truss. The middle truss now has neither an outside nor an inside. Possibly even with white fabric on each side, but maybe in a different style because it’s printed or projected with a beamer.

My thought would be to give each strand a fixed color.

Example: inside = red

middle = green

outside = blue

 

Transparent in the background.

The lines in the DataTag are also colored. We could also use numbers, but they might be hard to see on larger plans.

But this way, as you already mentioned, we could completely omit the inside/middle/outside assignment and just work with the colors.

The rectangle color indicates which strand. The DataTag is also colored accordingly. And the curtain itself (the wave) is also visible, so I can see which style is needed.

 

Something like that?

However, it shouldn’t be a color mess 😄

[Mirko Guhr]

@Peter Telleman

Would it also be okay if the “orientation” doesn’t always point to the center?

Here’s an example:

 

The blue curtain is located at the bottom and right on the “blue area”. Left and top on the “red area”.

Would that be okay with you?

[Mirko Guhr]

@Peter Telleman
Forget my last two posts 🙂

[Peter Telleman]

@Mirko Guhr

Why do I need to forget those last two posts? I actually found them interesting as an idea 🙂

For the technical drawing of the curtains, I would not mind at all to have those colours there (as long as they are in a class I could hide), and for reading purposes it does work better to have all tags horizontal.

[Mirko Guhr]

@Peter Telleman

If my current idea doesn’t work out, the posts would be a possible solution. But that would only be a kind of compromise if it doesn’t work.

The pattern behavior of the DataTag would be the following, right?

 

 

Would it also be okay if the colors don’t match the position on the truss? Because this assignment would only be correct for the horizontal truss. Here’s an example of what I mean. Would that be okay for you?

Edited September 28, 2024 by Mirko Guhr

[Peter Telleman]

@Mirko Guhr

 

The whole idea of making these drawings is to give the people who hang the curtains a clear explanation of what goes where. I'm not sure I understand you well, are you saying the colours correspond with the colours of the curtains, just not in the right order? Or they do not correspond with the colours of the curtains? The last one of course would not serve the intended purpose. With the first, even though of course the order corresponding with the order of which they are on the truss would be preferable, I think I wouldn't mind giving it a try if it isn't, to see if that's clear enough for the people hanging them.

 

So in your two examples, the first one would be ideal.

[Mirko Guhr]

@Peter Telleman

The former would probably apply.

With my current project, I probably can’t guarantee that the order of the colors will always match.

However, the project aims to ensure that the colors of the DataTag match the colors of the curtains.

[Peter Telleman]

Any updates? I'm extremely curious what you come up with 🙂

[Mirko Guhr]

@Peter Telleman
 

Unfortunately, a project of mine has gotten a bit out of hand, and I had to put my private hobbies on hold 🙂.

Therefore, the plan is delayed a bit. However, I don’t want to leave you completely in the dark about what I have planned.

As it sometimes happens, the small things are quite complex.

Unfortunately, as mentioned before, I can’t make the DataTag available with code. Therefore, my current consideration is to build you a custom "DataTag".

My plan is to check the selected objects and read out the required data.

Then, as with the current script, a rectangle will be drawn around the objects and placed in the drawing. Also, at this position, a kind of “DataTag” will be placed that contains the information of the objects. This “DataTag” consists of individual lines of text like the normal DataTag.

The lines, like the normal one, have a background that colors itself based on the curtain that the text reflects.

I am already testing the individual sub-functions of the script so that I can then code the whole thing properly into a large script.

It is as complicated as it sounds 😄. Therefore, I can’t promise that it will turn out as I hope in the end. It may well happen that a function doesn’t work and thus the rest of the plan fails.

But I’m on it and haven’t forgotten you. However, I also think that the script as it is now (without clear assignment) doesn’t provide much added value.

The risk that the wrong curtain will be hung during assembly is too great. That’s why I want to try it. I think I’ll get back to it a bit by the weekend and report back at the end of the weekend on how things are going.

Best regards 👋

 

[Peter Telleman]

No hurry, I completely understand hobbies taking too much time 🙂