How to show hatch/fill on stair treads with hidden line rendering

[Archistyles]

Hi everyone

I have a steel stair to which I assigned a perforated metal texture with associated surface hatch to the treads.

-Shaded render OK

-I have an issue with hidden line render.

First , surface hatch associated with the texture wouldn't show in hidden line render , so I had to assign it as fill in the attribute tread top face in the stair setting.

however the hatch shows only in hidden line render view from design layer and not from the viewport.

Is there a setting somewhere to fix it?

Thx

 

[Tom W.]

Are you sure the last screenshot is using Hidden Line? It looks like it's showing a Top/Plan view (Wireframe) so you are seeing the 2D graphics for the Stair. If you want to see the 3D graphics (the surface hatch associated with the texture) you need to be in Top view.

[Archistyles]

19 hours ago, Tom W. said:

Are you sure the last screenshot is using Hidden Line? It looks like it's showing a Top/Plan view (Wireframe) so you are seeing the 2D graphics for the Stair. If you want to see the 3D graphics (the surface hatch associated with the texture) you need to be in Top view.

Thanks Tom 

I think my setup is correct : Top view , hidden line

I took a screenshot of the viewport with the OIP.

I have a steel platform ( floor object) with the same texture as the stair on the same plan/viewport and it shows the surface hatch.

it seems the stair object has a different behavior ? or I am missing something?

I am on 2024 Architect 

[Tom W.]

Ah ok I see now. In the OIP for the VP you need to disable the 2D components of the Stair:

 

[line-weight]

Beware that this may cause 2d components to disappear elsewhere in the drawing, where you don't want them to disappear.

[Tom W.]

In that case the other option would be to turn off the 2D classes for the Stair. Then the 3D Stair will display instead.

[Archistyles]

Yes , turning 2D components off make other info disappear : doors will not show in open position , stair 2D graphics (walk line, number of risers, ..)

I created a partial viewport for the stair only with 2d components unchecked and superimposed it on the full plan viewport and it seems to give some ok results , below screen shot.

It doesn't feel this is how it should be dealt with , I think Vectorworks should make the stair object itself display the info in same manner as the floor object.

 

Re: 2D classes for the stair I need to turn off, I didn't set any. do I need to in this case?

 

Thanks for your help

 

[Tom W.]

1 minute ago, Archistyles said:

Re: 2D classes for the stair I need to turn off, I didn't set any. do I need to in this case?

 

Yes if you assign them to their own class then you can easily turn them off + get the look you want.

[line-weight]

Does it work if you assign the "2D treads" to a class which is set to show the desired surface hatch?

[Archistyles]

2 hours ago, line-weight said:

Does it work if you assign the "2D treads" to a class which is set to show the desired surface hatch?

It does work indeed!!!!

I guess we can't rely on surface hatch when it comes to stairs and use rather stairs 2D classes attributes.

Many thanks for the tip.

 

Edited September 16, 2024 by Archistyles