Landscape Area issue with plants not staying inside border

[hollister design Studio]

I have the " Show all plant edges inside bed area" check box checked, but three of the plant objects are consistently outside of the bed area...

 

What's going on?

 

 

 

I tried another landscape area style, and everything WAS inside the border.

 

So I converted that style to unstyled, replaced each plant with the plants I was trying to use, and immediately the three plants I was having trouble with before and now outside the borders again.

 

 

below is the styled landscape area that works fine, and above is the same style, unstyled and plants replaced.

 

I check if these plants had some hidden geometry that was set over to the edge to make the plant bigger, but they don't. They are seemingly well-formed plant objects.

 

I'm also occasionally getting this warning "Plant diameters exceed the planting bed border in some areas" - but there isn't any input as to why or how to fix it...

 

Any ideas?

 

 

 

 

[hollister design Studio]

test file:

 

Landscape area border issue.vwx

[Jeff Prince]

File can't be opened in 2024...

You might check the insertion point of the plant objects that are located outside the LA boundary.

[hollister design Studio]

@Jeff Prince can i save the file to 2024 from 2025?

[Jeff Prince]

1 minute ago, hollister design Studio said:

@Jeff Prince can i save the file to 2024 from 2025?

 

I don't know, I'm not using 2025.

Your signature says you are using 2024, I didn't realize the file was in 2025.

[hollister design Studio]

I just loaded it up yesterday and am testing it.

 

Landscape areas seem to have had some improvements, and the editing menus are completely different.

 

2024:

 

2025:

 

 

 

 

I might need to wait for a 'coffee break' about them

[zoomer]

1 hour ago, hollister design Studio said:

@Jeff Prince can i save the file to 2024 from 2025?

 

I think yes.

You could always export to a certain amount of older VW versions.

[hollister design Studio]

Thanks @zoomer

 

here is the 2024 file

Landscape area border issue v2024.vwx

 

2024 doesn't have the "Show all plant edges inside bed area" check box, but the plants are still with in the border for that LA and are not for the other

Landscape area border issue v2024.vwx

[Jeff Prince]

It is as I suspected, the insertion point for the plant show outside the boundary is not at the center of the plant.

You can see this by ungrouping the LA and looking at individual plants from the LA.  The plant object "SUCC-Echeveria 'Afterglow' EAG" has been scaled by an odd amount and has a different insertion point than its non-scaled counterpart found in the resource menu for this document.

Maybe it's a bug with how VWX makes LAs, maybe it is a bug with your custom symbol?

[hollister design Studio]

Those symbols have the insertion point in the center.

So I guess turning off the random scaling feature will be a start.

 

Mostly I'm just going back to 2024 until 2025mis a bit less buggy.

[Jeff Prince]

1 hour ago, hollister design Studio said:

Those symbols have the insertion point in the center.

…not when they are part of the landscape area.

 

I haven’t used 2024 for any of my actual projects yet.  I will probably hang out on 2023 until 2025 becomes stable, which is usually 6-9 months after release 😞

Edited September 13 by Jeff Prince

[Katarina Ollikainen]

@hollister design Studio, I've opened a Jira to see what's going on here.

At first glance, I can see that the plants behave better when I create a style of the unstyled LA, but this shouldn't be a requirement. I'll keep you updated on what we find.

 

[hollister design Studio]

@Katarina Ollikainen I noticed that too.

 

Looking forward to you doing a coffee break on the new hardscape and landscape area improvements!

[Katarina Ollikainen]

@hollister design Studio, Yes, it's already booked in. It will be @Tony Kostreski who runs it, I believe.