What does Fundamentals not include?

[Bruce Kieffer]

Does Fundamentals still lack the navigation palette? What other functionality does it lack? Is there a comparison graph showing what a certain version of Vectorworks includes over another version?

[Tom W.]

See: Commands_Tools2024.pdf

[Bruce Kieffer]

I found this too: https://download2.vectorworks.net/eblast/0_2020/product-comparison/4208-1907-us-sales-slick-updates-arch-fund-designer-comparison.pdf

[Bruce Kieffer]

I wonder how many users have Fundamentals. The subscription cost difference between Fundamentals and Architect seems minimal to me, so why would a user cripple themselves to use Vectorworks without the navigation palette?

Edited June 2, 2024 by Bruce Kieffer

[BartH]

to me, the major feature difference is Publishing. 

How many hours did I waste printing sheet-by-sheet before we upgraded to Architect

[Pat Stanford]

3 hours ago, Bruce Kieffer said:

I wonder how many users have Fundamentals. The subscription cost difference between Fundamentals and Architect seems minimal to me, so why would a user cripple themselves to use Vectorworks without the navigation palette?

Best answer I can provide is because they need a CAD program, but they are not doing architecture.  For what I do, Walls/Doors/Windows/Floors while nice to have occasionally, represent less than 1% of what I draw. And not having door and window tools would not impact my drawings at all.

 

And if you don't understand what is not included in Fundamentals, there is no understanding that you should require Architect/Landmark/Spotlight.

 

Maybe there needs to be a Fundamentals Plus version that includes the Nav Palette and Publish.

 

Or maybe VW just needs to bite the bullet and finally decide that Fundamentals is actually to crippled and add some of the missing features that are not industry specific.

 

$0.02

[Bruce Kieffer]

I too have no need for the Walls/Doors/Windows/Floors tools. Long ago in a different century I started with Fundamentals. Pretty much instantly I knew I had to get Architect so I would have the navigation palette. I suspect a user's needs have to be extremely simple to not need the navigation palette. I can't imagine how Vectorworks can be used without it. One of our group members bought Fundamentals, and they were always fighting to get around in their drawing. I recall posting about it here and someone replied that Fundamentals was crippleware.

 

Anyone here using Fundamentals? Chime in and tell us how you use it and how you manage withe the Nav Palette.

[Pat Stanford]

I think if you were doing very simple 2D only drawings with one drawing per design layer, then Fundamentals might be fine. But if you are working in 3D or need any type of document management, then stepping up would be a good choice.

[VIRTUALENVIRONS]

21 hours ago, Bruce Kieffer said:

so why would a user cripple themselves to use Vectorworks without the navigation palette?

Hi Bruce,

There is a thread going (how to create a u shape wall from side profile on a curved wall) that I think relates to this thread. It has now been hijacked by the usual suspects, which makes it much more interesting.  Anyway, it is higher end stuff, but none of it requires more than Fundamentals.  

 

I have never really looked a Fundamentals, but just did.  Most of what I do "now" would only require fundamentals, but I am a designer and not an Architect, etc. 

 

It does remove a lot of clutter though if you are just modelling.  May have to look at it more.