VW2024 Window tool improvements: Sill settings

[Tom W.]

Windows in VW2024 are working great but would be greater still if we had better control over the Sill parameters.

 

The rear of the Sill

• Currently, the rear of a timber sill aligns with the internal face of the core Wall component if the Wall has a Core present + if the Wall does not have a Core, the rear of the sill will align with the interior face of the Window jamb.
• An improvement would be the ability to align the rear of the sill with any Wall component + to be able to apply an offset if desired. Additionally, we should be able to align the rear of the sill to the interior face of the Window jamb without having to remove the Core (since doing this will mess up Wall Closures).

 

The front of the Sill

• Currently, where the front of the sill is located is dictated by the ‘Depth’ parameter which is measured from the rear of the sill. 
• An improvement would be to remove the link to the rear of the sill + instead bind the front of the sill to the exterior face of the Wall + be able to apply an offset to dictate the projection.

 

The Keep

• Currently, the 'Keep' parameter is measured from the rear of the sill + dictates where the exterior-facing slope starts.
• An improvement would be to remove the link to the rear of the sill + instead bind the rear of the slope to the exterior edge of the Window jamb + be able to apply an offset if desired. As alternative options we should also be able to define the start of the slope relative to the exterior face of the Wall or the front edge of the Sill.

 

Similar improvements would be applied to the Brick + Masonry Sill configurations.

 

These improvements would mean that Sills could be fully set up by Style + work regardless of the Wall the Window is inserted in. At the moment, Sills need to be re-configured each time the thickness of the Wall the Window is inserted in changes or the Window is inserted in a new (different) Wall. (I appreciate that if the rear of a Sill is bound to a specific Wall component as described above then this parameter will need to be reset if the Wall changes but this would be a relatively quick + straightforward change to make compared to the current situation + if the rear of the Sill was bound to the interior face of the jamb instead wouldn't apply at all).

 

 

 

Edited March 10, 2024 by Tom W.

[Flair-Studio]

I usually end up having to draw a symbol inserted into the wall because the sill options are soo limited. But this workaround can soon become messy in complicated models especially when haing to deal with existing buildings with wall recesses, etc

[line-weight]

Against my better judgement I thought I'd try to get some sills working, and of course just ended up completely wasting an hour+ of my day.

 

On 3/10/2024 at 8:40 AM, Tom W. said:

The rear of the Sill

• Currently, the rear of a timber sill aligns with the internal face of the core Wall component if the Wall has a Core present + if the Wall does not have a Core, the rear of the sill will align with the interior face of the Window jamb.
• An improvement would be the ability to align the rear of the sill with any Wall component + to be able to apply an offset if desired. Additionally, we should be able to align the rear of the sill to the interior face of the Window jamb without having to remove the Core (since doing this will mess up Wall Closures).

^ worth noting that:

a masonry sill aligns with the external face of the core component 

a timber sill aligns with the internal face of the core component 

a brick sill aligns with the external face of the core component 

 

This urgently needs improvement... we should be able to do what @Tom W. says above, and also, if the behaviour of aligning relative to the core component remains, then this needs to be indicated on the diagram in the window sill settings dialogue because otherwise everyone that tries to use this is inevitably going to be frustrated and confused.

[line-weight]

Also... the 3d preview is kind of useless because it doesn't know where the back of the sill is actually going to end up, so just draws it in some default location, which makes the preview image misleading and confusing.

[Tom W.]

1 minute ago, line-weight said:

^ worth noting that:

a masonry sill aligns with the external face of the core component 

a timber sill aligns with the internal face of the core component 

a brick sill aligns with the external face of the core component 

 

Thank you well noted. I only ever use the timber sill + didn't think to check at the time how the other configurations work but I did realise afterwards they were different... Hopefully @Matt Panzer will tell us the day we have a better functioning sill is edging closer... 🙂

[Matt Panzer]

12 minutes ago, Tom W. said:

 

Thank you well noted. I only ever use the timber sill + didn't think to check at the time how the other configurations work but I did realise afterwards they were different... Hopefully @Matt Panzer will tell us the day we have a better functioning sill is edging closer... 🙂

 

I'll do my best!  In the meantime, we're always listening and taking notes for these requests. 🙂