Section Viewport Display?

[Bruce Kieffer]

42 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Ha thwarted again.

I thought this time I really outsmarted 'em.

I created a clip cube so that only my desired objects were visible.

Now no issues of a front view, and seeing through to objects behind what I wanted to show.

Perfect.

Use the command to create a viewport , and "Display with clip cube" so only my clipped view would be in the viewport, and I could give it annotations.

Ha...!

The checkbox was greyed out.

Much head scratching until you hover over it, and read the info.

" ...Only available in shaded and renderworks modes"

Why is it so hard to do a section, or clip cube view port in wireframe?

I went down that wrong road too! Sad. The solution is easy. Give us wire frame in the section VP.

[line-weight]

I don't really understand what you're trying to achieve. I'm not quite sure how a section of a wireframe would really be meaningful or useful. Can you post something that lets us see what you're trying to show?

 

 

[Bruce Kieffer]

28 minutes ago, line-weight said:

I don't really understand what you're trying to achieve. I'm not quite sure how a section of a wireframe would really be meaningful or useful. Can you post something that lets us see what you're trying to show?

 

 

Look back at the original post. I explained the need there.

[rDesign]

On 12/5/2023 at 7:38 AM, Bruce Kieffer said:

What are section viewports used for, and why use them if they are so limited?

For my Architectural work, I use Section Viewports all the time for Building Sections, Interior Elevations, Exterior Building Elevations, Detail Elevations, etc. For Exterior Building Elevations I use SLVPs so I can show the grade line close to the building face. Interior Elevations have gotten better in recent releases, but sometimes I find Section SLVPs easier to control.
 

I have not run into the issues you had with adding dimensions to circles on Section SLVPs, for example to locate pipes penetrating walls. (Granted I am not dimensioning them to the millimeter).

 

If I were drawing the cabinetry details from your example, I would have drawn the shelf bracket support holes with 2D circle annotations in the Hidden Line SLVP. I would not bother with modeling them in 3D.

Edited January 1, 2024 by rDesign

[Bruce Kieffer]

1 hour ago, rDesign said:

If I were drawing the cabinetry details from your example, I would have drawn the shelf bracket support holes with 2D circle annotations in the Hidden Line SLVP. I would not bother with modeling them in 3D.

That is an option. I assume it would work to be able to snap to the center. Even so, not being able to see the outline of the dividers on the cabinet sides is still a problem. I've moved on and I have given up the idea of using section VPs to do what I need to do.

[line-weight]

13 hours ago, Bruce Kieffer said:

Look back at the original post. I explained the need there.

Sorry, my question was aimed at @Mickey.

[Bruce Kieffer]

Looks like this type viewport that I wanted back in 2023 can be achieved now in Vectorworks 2025. I'm still testing, but it looks like when I hide objects in a design layer those selections are also hidden in the VP. If this holds true it will greatly simplify and speed up my drawing time. One limitation is; you cannot go back to the DL, change which objects are hidden or showing, and then see those changes in the VP. That does not work. Here are a few examples from my current house project. This is a simple design, and not the best to use for an example, but it works.

[Pat Stanford]

You don't have to go back to the Design Layer. Just use the Visibility Tool in the Object Visibility mode and set to Hide Objects. You can click on objects in the viewport from the sheet layer and hide them directly. Or unhide them in the Show Object. You even get a nice red preview of what is going to be shown or hidden.

 

Thanks to @Tom W. for pointing this out in another thread.

 

[Tom W.]

55 minutes ago, Pat Stanford said:

You don't have to go back to the Design Layer. Just use the Visibility Tool in the Object Visibility mode and set to Hide Objects. You can click on objects in the viewport from the sheet layer and hide them directly. Or unhide them in the Show Object. You even get a nice red preview of what is going to be shown or hidden.

 

Thanks to @Tom W. for pointing this out in another thread.

 

 

Although this doesn't work with Section Viewports unfortunately. Here you need to Edit Design Layer or Edit Section in Place + use the Visibility Tool there in the edit mode then return to the VP, ensuring that 'Apply object visibility changes' is enabled in the 'Edit Viewport' dialog.

[Bruce Kieffer]

9 hours ago, Pat Stanford said:

You don't have to go back to the Design Layer. Just use the Visibility Tool in the Object Visibility mode and set to Hide Objects. You can click on objects in the viewport from the sheet layer and hide them directly. Or unhide them in the Show Object. You even get a nice red preview of what is going to be shown or hidden.

 

Thanks to @Tom W. for pointing this out in another thread.

 

Wow, that is nice! FYI... It does not work if the VP is of a symbol. Then the entire symbol is hidden, and that does limit this trick.

Edited January 23 by Bruce Kieffer

[Mickey]

Well @Bruce Kieffer I'm glad your use has been solved, but sadly we still can't create viewports from a clipcube in wireframe.

I use the clipcube more and more as drawings are getting more complex, and the ability to hide the noise while I focus on something small is really useful.

But man'o'man do I wish I could create a viewport from that clipcube in wireframe.