Giving up om 2024 and looks like 2023 from now on

[MartinFahrer]

Trying to marque multiple objects to delete them.  marque doesn't show up and no objects selected.  After hours of failure i opened 2023 and was able to do it first time and easily. 

 

Productivity slowed down to a snails pace ever since "upgrading" to 2024.  Used to be a big supporter of the program, wuth 2024 you guys screwed the pooch.  drafying in 2023 now and looking for alternate programs.

 

 

[Peter Neufeld.]

Hi Martin,

I understand your frustration but this is not the experience of most users. I am sure if you contact your local technical support team they can sort you out ASAP.

 

Cheers,

Peter

[KWiley]

Our office is also experiencing a major slow down with 2024. We just switched to VW about a yr ago and were very happy but after spending almost a yr getting the software setup for our office the way we want, we are very nervous with the slow down and clunkiness of the program now. I timed the time it freezes before being able to continue after adding an object and its right at 28 seconds. 2 of us in the office both using Windows but have different machines having the same issues. 2022 & 2023 were great on these same machines. Are there any suggestions to speed up the program? It doesnt sound like yall even see this as a problem so are we not looking forward to a fix?

[Peter Neufeld.]

Hello @KWiley,

As above, this is what your local technical support team is for. It might be a corrupted setting that was migrated and you might need to reset your user folder - possibly. Contact them to sort you out.

 

Cheers,

Peter

[MartinFahrer]

Well peter I was on 8 hours straight WASTING a days pay getting it sorted out.  Still issues, like having to resize class drop down menu every time you open a file, extra steps.  Went to edit drawing stamp today and an extra step was added in order to make a custom stamp = MORE TIME WASTED.

Anyone know if Auto Cad has these issues? 

[Catmansound]

On 12/15/2023 at 3:13 PM, MartinFahrer said:

Well peter I was on 8 hours straight WASTING a days pay getting it sorted out.  Still issues, like having to resize class drop down menu every time you open a file, extra steps.  Went to edit drawing stamp today and an extra step was added in order to make a custom stamp = MORE TIME WASTED.

Anyone know if Auto Cad has these issues? 

Same here, drop down menus don't retain last size state when you quit and restart Vectorworks, they always shrink to smallest curled up size, this has been happening since first release of 2024 and continues to this last update. Neither do tool set and attributes menus, they always resize to some default postion when you relaunch Vectorworks.

[Payne Chang]

4 hours ago, Catmansound said:

Same here, drop down menus don't retain last size state when you quit and restart Vectorworks, they always shrink to smallest curled up size, this has been happening since first release of 2024 and continues to this last update. Neither do tool set and attributes menus, they always resize to some default postion when you relaunch Vectorworks.

Hi @Catmansound,

Thank you for the comment. The issue that the searchable pulldown menus from the view bar on Windows do not remember their sizes has been fixed in update 4 betas. You will see it addressed in update 4. Can you provide more info about "tool set" and "attributes menus"? Thanks!

[Catmansound]

Hi, I dock the Basic on the left of the screen, and below that I dock the Tool Set, and below that I dock the Attributes menu. My display is 2560X1440. Plenty of white space below tools. I position the Tool Sets & Attributes so that there's plenty of white space below all the Basic icons and there's still plenty of space below the Tool Sets Icons. When I close down Vectorworks and restart it, the Tool Sets is smushed down, an the scroll bar appears, I have to reposition up again.  see attached image I made, thanks and hope this helps.

[Catmansound]

On 1/16/2024 at 8:01 AM, Catmansound said:

Same here, drop down menus don't retain last size state when you quit and restart Vectorworks, they always shrink to smallest curled up size, this has been happening since first release of 2024 and continues to this last update. Neither do tool set and attributes menus, they always resize to some default postion when you relaunch Vectorworks.

I received a response from Vectorworks yesterday about this, they said that this is being addressed in the next update, good to know they read and react to these posts. 

[Payne Chang]

The size issue of searchable pulldowns (such as Layers and Classes) from the View Bar will be addressed in update 4. We are still investigating the height issue of the docked palettes.

[Poot]

On 12/15/2023 at 9:13 PM, MartinFahrer said:

Well peter I was on 8 hours straight WASTING a days pay getting it sorted out.  Still issues, like having to resize class drop down menu every time you open a file, extra steps.  Went to edit drawing stamp today and an extra step was added in order to make a custom stamp = MORE TIME WASTED.

Anyone know if Auto Cad has these issues? 

AutoCAD hasn't changed their layout in a decade, so no. But then you are working in AutoCAD...

[Nikolay Zhelyazkov]

On 12/15/2023 at 10:13 PM, MartinFahrer said:

Went to edit drawing stamp today and an extra step was added in order to make a custom stamp = MORE TIME WASTED.

Hello Martin,

 

There were changes in the drawing stamp to allow you to preset and reorder your stamp options but the old workflow with Custom Stamp text is still supported with the same operation, just select Custom and then enter your text. Am I missing something? Can you tell me what is the extra step that you have to do?

 

Best Regards,

Nikolay Zhelyazkov

[Mark Aceto]

On 1/16/2024 at 11:08 AM, Catmansound said:

Hi, I dock the Basic on the left of the screen, and below that I dock the Tool Set, and below that I dock the Attributes menu. My display is 2560X1440. Plenty of white space below tools. I position the Tool Sets & Attributes so that there's plenty of white space below all the Basic icons and there's still plenty of space below the Tool Sets Icons. When I close down Vectorworks and restart it, the Tool Sets is smushed down, an the scroll bar appears, I have to reposition up again.  see attached image I made, thanks and hope this helps.

This has been an issue for years, and it never gets prioritized for a fix. I’ve just accepted the Sisyphean task of resizing them on every restart for eternity.

[Kevin K]

Personally I use two displays, on a Mac, and have not had that issue. I like not having the main display cluttered with palettes. Usually just the Resource Manager is on my main screen.

That said, perhaps because all my palettes are on my second display and NOT docked, whenever opening a file, or a new file everything stays put.

Also, there is the option in the Window Menu that lets you 'Save Palette Positions' so that may be something to try ?

 

[Pat Stanford]

"Save Palette Positions" is almost useless.  The palette positions are saved when VW quits. So if you set up your palettes the way you like and use "Save Palette Positions" you are OK if VW crashes before quitting.  But if you SPP and then move the positions and normally quit VW, the last positions will save over whatever you had using SPP.

 

And for those of us using laptops and switching between single monitor and multiple monitor configurations, it is even worse as the palettes move every time you connect/disconnect an external monitor.  VW2024 is better, but not great.

 

The real wish would be for VW to have 2 (or more) monitor configurations and save the palette positions. So when you connect or disconnect a monitor VW will automatically switch to that configuration with the saved palette positions.

 

And probably to have SPP actually force the positions to save and not have VW overwrite them at every quit.

 

$0.02

[E|FA]

34 minutes ago, Pat Stanford said:

"Save Palette Positions" is almost useless.

Made perfectly clear by the fact that there is no "Restore Palette Positions".

[zoomer]

1 hour ago, Pat Stanford said:

The real wish would be for VW to have 2 (or more) monitor configurations and save the palette positions.

 

Yes, I think more would be mandatory.

 

E.g. switching with your laptop from home office to office, VW may be confronted

with completely different monitor resolutions that may not allow the former configuration ....

 

And if you attach it at a client to their Monitor for presentation, VW would need to detect

a new configurations, throw a (suppressible) warning and ask what to do,

 

- single monitor config, monitor A.B. or C ?

- try if best suitable setup could work ?

- start monitor setup AI Assistent, trying to setup your VW Windows and Palettes according

  to your recorded habits during the last 2 years ?

- let VW decide what UI setup is best for you ?

[E|FA]

There is a Wishlist item related to the palettes.  It could probably use some additional suggestions from this thread.  I'll cross link them in case that helps.