Again, what is the best (current) VW Mouse

[Cody Worthman]

I use a Mx master 2s and really like it. Between the extra customizable buttons/scroll wheels & the Touch Bar on my Mac book, I’m happy with the extra shortcuts available .

[zoomer]

On 10/18/2023 at 4:44 PM, zoomer said:

 

I already ordered one.

But it will take some time until it arrives as I also ordered some not

deliverable cables and adapters ......

(Last time when I ordered I chose only products marked as available

 and some switched to not available while waiting 3 weeks anyway)

 

 

Did a quick look over all Mac compatible mice in an online shop.

Logitech's overall looked most reasonable.

 

Then I was a but unsure about Mac or Mac/PC/Linux version.

Or if MX 2 would be enough too (?)

Not sure why the Mac version is more expensive, although it misses

the Logi Bolt USB Receiver (Would I need that for Linux ?)

and has a USB C to C cable vs USB A to C in PC version,

while my M1 Mini has only 2 (already occupied) USB C Slots.

 

But I chose the MX3 Mac Version.

And therefore the USB adapters and cables 🙂

 

 

Short update,

I never got my delivery because alternating any of my USB C adapters was not available.

From time to time I got new availability/delivery updates by email.

At one point in March or April I accidentally clicked on the "cancel order" button instead

of the link to my order .... there was no way back and my money was send back ....

 

So no MX and I forgot about Mice because my 3DCon CADMouse currently clicks reliable

again for now.

(Might have been a special humidity and temperature window that made clicks fail)

 

But I still would go with a MX after your feedback.

 

I was just again warned about Logitech's monster driver from many sides.

As I need to keep the other monster drivers,

(Wacom for my Cintiq and 3DCon for my Enterprise/Navigator)

I am not that amused to need a 3rd one from Logitech.

[Poot]

I don't have any additional drivers for my MX master @zoomer

 

It can pair with up to three different devices via Bluetooth, and there is no adapter or special drivers needed.  You can of course install the software to customize keys/buttons more easily, but it isn't drivers as far as I'm aware.

[zoomer]

Ah, yes.

 

But for me it is always important to be able to assign extra buttons App specific

for all 3D and CAD Apps. So I usually need the driver suite bloatware.

 

It is easy if for standard Apps like browsing, mail and such.

I could even use the magic mouse for this comfortably.

But as soon as drawing on screen, I would need bettertouchtool for extra cursor

speed without acceleration. And still never reached a satisfying MMB or "scroll

wheel" click.

(I really admire all Mac CAD and VW users staying with their magic mice)

 

[zoomer]

On 4/22/2024 at 10:01 PM, Poot said:

You can of course install the software to customize keys/buttons more easily,

 

Update,

as my CADMouse clicks get unreliable each humid summer above 60% humidity,

means there are missing clicks on ALL buttons and even worse - unwanted double

clicks (think of wanting to delete a single eMail or File WTH),
(Why at all does 3DConnexion spec a $100 Mouse with the cheapest click sensors,

under the same conditions all my other Mice, even the cheapest, work fine !)

I now therefore I currently use an old cheap Logitech M500 USB mouse 😮‍💨

 

I therefore installed the older Logitech Options Software

to be able to assign App specific keys to mouse buttons ....

(The Logi Options Plus only scanned for bluetooth and did not find my M500 USB)

 

I even installed the Logitech (without plusAI) Software to be able to assign buttons specific

according to Apps.

(The current "Logi Options Plus" only scanned for bluetooth and did not find my M500 USB)

 

The main problem was first its Scroll Wheel with its side scroll option !

That lead to important middle mouse button to being unreliable.

E.g. instead of CTRL+MMB in VW to temporary Fly Over it zoomed in accidentally most times.

Could solve this by resetting scroll left/right option for each of my 3D/CAD App Settings by

setting them all to MMB for now.

(Also did this for "Any App" Setting in case there come new 3D App's version in future)

 

But my biggest problem is still that I see no option in Logi Options (without AI Plus) Software

to being able to assign "Macros" !

Meaning that e.g. a "Fit View" in Bricscad (DWG style) needs a Macro : to print a _Zoom_E

 

I have not found a way to do so in Logitech Software.
(As opposed to my Macros Settings per App in 3DConnexion Drivers)

[Poot]

15 hours ago, zoomer said:

I have not found a way to do so in Logitech Software.
(As opposed to my Macros Settings per App in 3DConnexion Drivers)

 

 

The  new logitech app has the ability to program 'smart actions', which are basically macros.  I am not sure if this is available for the m500 mouse, though it is for the MX series mice.

[zoomer]

9 hours ago, Poot said:

The  new logitech app has the ability to program 'smart actions', which are basically macros.

 

This is very good to know !

 

Not sure the newest it is compatible with my cheap M500.

It was offered with for my M500 but I could not see my Mouse as it looked for bluetooth only.

So I uninstalled it immediately ....

But I am not sure as as each reboot, with the older Software as well, needs to re-plug the M500

anyway. Maybe that would have worked with the "plus" software too.

 

If the new Software allows Macros by adding keystroke combinations, I can finally buy a MX

Mouse. It was just that my M500 test showed that this mouse, with its side scroll option

did not reliable worked as a CAD App needed MMB, from the beginning.

Which I finally solved by deactivating side scrolling option.

But the M500 feels cheap and bad anyway .....

 

I had not had any CAD scroll wheel MMB problems with any Mice before,

I have tons of beloved Microsoft Intelli Mice which were great at that time for CAD - until

MS dropped Mac driver support many years/macOSs ago.

Edited September 17 by zoomer

[Poot]

Yeah, the m500 is pretty basic. I have had the original MX Master now for....6 years? And I got it second hand. still going strong, with pretty good battery and works well on most surfaces. 
 

Version3 has a much higher DPI sensor, and different thumb buttons which I think I would prefer, but not quite enough to make the switch yet. You can probably get the V2 at a reduced price.