Custom Window not Cutting Wall In Plan & Model Simultaneously.

[rudybeuc@gmail.com]

 

 

Ok, I'm having problems with a custom window not cutting a wall correctly in plan and in 3D Simultaneously. .

 

It seems to want to do one or the other depending on what viewpoint was active when it was inserted.

 

What's going on?

 

Thanks,

Rudy Beuc 

 

 

2023-09-05 16-00-28.mkv Existing Conditions.vwx

[E|FA]

See these threads regarding a known bug.  If you're seeing something different, flag @Matt Panzer in your followup post.

 

[rudybeuc@gmail.com]

Yup , mine's a little different.

 

I wasn't getting a hole in the wall if a design layer other than the one the wall resided in was active. 

 

Flagging @Matt Panzer......

 

I hope this gets resolved soon...

 

Thanks,

Rudy Beuc

 

 

 

 

41 minutes ago, E|FA said:

See these threads regarding a known bug.  If you're seeing something different, flag @Matt Panzer in your followup post.

 

 

[Tom W.]

4 hours ago, rudybeuc@gmail.com said:

Yup , mine's a little different.

 

I wasn't getting a hole in the wall if a design layer other than the one the wall resided in was active. 

 

Flagging @Matt Panzer......

 

I hope this gets resolved soon...

 

Thanks,

Rudy Beuc

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's because you've got two Walls superimposed on top of each other. You've got two windows inserted in one of the Walls + one in the other:

 

 

I'm not entirely sure what the intention is with the 0 height wall.

 

You have other walls set to O height with top offsets applied to one or more of the components:

 

 

Is this intentional?

 

You've got pairs of windows inserted over the top of each other:

[rudybeuc@gmail.com]

Wow, 

 

No, having overlapping walls was not intentional. I don't know where in the process that could have happened or how it happened. 

 

I lost a good 4 to 5 hours trying to figure out what was wrong. I had noticed the lines in the wall right at the floor plane or layer level, but figured those were artifacts of some sort. 

 

I'm used to another CAD/Bim software and am habituated to other object selection procedures, but I don't know how that would have created walls with 0 heights.

 

We'll see ow the rest of the day goes....

 

Thank you for your insights,

Rudy Beuc

 

8 hours ago, Tom W. said:

 

It's because you've got two Walls superimposed on top of each other. You've got two windows inserted in one of the Walls + one in the other:

 

 

I'm not entirely sure what the intention is with the 0 height wall.

 

You have other walls set to O height with top offsets applied to one or more of the components:

 

 

Is this intentional?

 

You've got pairs of windows inserted over the top of each other:

 

Edited September 6, 2023 by rudybeuc@gmail.com

[rudybeuc@gmail.com]

It's happened again. I've got overlapping walls and such. 

 

More than once I've had to punch out, and just power the computer off and on again while VW was locked up and processing some view.

 

Mabey that's when it's happening....

 

Thanks,

Rudy Beuc

 

 

[Matt Panzer]

@rudybeuc@gmail.com,

Looking at the file you originally posted, I see an almost identical set of walls on layer "Roof Structure First Floor" and "1-Floor Level".  It looks to me that all of the walls were copied and pasted from "1-Floor Level" to the "Roof Structure First Floor" layer.  The exterior walls on that layer are flat because they're linked to a story level that does not exist for objects on that layer.  I think deleting those walls should resolve the issues you're having.

[rudybeuc@gmail.com]

Yes I've done that. And it did eliminate the problems mentioned at first.

 

Thing is, today VW locked up my computer and so I had to power down and start back up. Completely ruined my viewing of the coffee break today.

 

After doing so I noticed more objects copied in place. Even a Section Line and some Grid Lines. I thought I had eliminated all duplicates yesterday, so I suspect this is happening during the lock ups and restarts.

 

Thanks,

Rudy Beuc

 

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, Matt Panzer said:

@rudybeuc@gmail.com,

Looking at the file you originally posted, I see an almost identical set of walls on layer "Roof Structure First Floor" and "1-Floor Level".  It looks to me that all of the walls were copied and pasted from "1-Floor Level" to the "Roof Structure First Floor" layer.  The exterior walls on that layer are flat because they're linked to a story level that does not exist for objects on that layer.  I think deleting those walls should resolve the issues you're having.

 

[Matt Panzer]

20 minutes ago, rudybeuc@gmail.com said:

Yes I've done that. And it did eliminate the problems mentioned at first.

 

Thing is, today VW locked up my computer and so I had to power down and start back up. Completely ruined my viewing of the coffee break today.

 

After doing so I noticed more objects copied in place. Even a Section Line and some Grid Lines. I thought I had eliminated all duplicates yesterday, so I suspect this is happening during the lock ups and restarts.

 

Thanks,

Rudy Beuc

 

Hmm... I have not heard of anything like this happening before.  I don't think it could happen while Vectorworks freezes or during a restart because the application would probably not be able to save the file in that state.  If you ever notice a series of actions that seem to cause it, please let us know and if you continue having issues with the file, it would probably be best to have Tech Support look at it.

[rudybeuc@gmail.com]

Well, it doesn't freeze exactly.

 

It's always been during a hidden line render in regular design layer space or in a viewport. The machine slows down, while geometry is being rerendered or whatnot. Hard drive goes to town, memory gets used up, and the machine becomes unusable.

 

I'll see if I can reproduce it.

 

Thanks,

Rudy Beuc

 

 

[rudybeuc@gmail.com]

Well #@$!@#%.

 

When I tried, I couldn't reproduce it.....

 

Thanks,

Rudy Beuc

[Pat Stanford]

There is a preference Vectorworks Preferences:Edit to Allow Option Click in-place duplication. If you have that checked and you accidentally option click on a wall it will make a duplicate.  I always have that option turned off.

 

[Pat Stanford]

I would also recommend that you Save the file before doing the renders.  That way if you do have to force reboot the computer you will know you do have the latest version of the file.  If not, you will only get whatever you had at the last save.

[Matt Panzer]

1 hour ago, rudybeuc@gmail.com said:

Well, it doesn't freeze exactly.

 

It's always been during a hidden line render in regular design layer space or in a viewport. The machine slows down, while geometry is being rerendered or whatnot. Hard drive goes to town, memory gets used up, and the machine becomes unusable.

 

I'll see if I can reproduce it.

 

OK, I see.  It still seems highly unlikely that rendering would cause objects to be duplicated.

 

1 hour ago, rudybeuc@gmail.com said:

Well #@$!@#%.

 

When I tried, I couldn't reproduce it.....

 

Interesting!  Hopefully that will be the last of it but, if it happens again, you may want to have someone in tech support look at the file.

[AlanW]

@rudybeuc@gmail.com Hi i noticed that your windows in plan don't show all the detail if you set settings as per attached you will see more.

[rudybeuc@gmail.com]

Nope, had my hopes up as to that being the answer for the duplicates, but no....

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks anyway....

Rudy

 

 

 

 

 

7 hours ago, Pat Stanford said:

There is a preference Vectorworks Preferences:Edit to Allow Option Click in-place duplication. If you have that checked and you accidentally option click on a wall it will make a duplicate.  I always have that option turned off.