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floating Windows for Layer and Class management

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How about floating windows or palettes for layer management and class management?

Such windows could be collapsed with a click of the mouse. It would make the visibility and invisibility of classes very convenient. Especially if you decided to opt for translating an AutoCad document converting DXF layers to classes.

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there needs to be a faster easier way to manipulate the layers and classes

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Clearly something needs to be done here. I prefer the palette idea to the scroll menu. Via the former you could change the visibility of many layers and classes quickly. Via the latter you would need to keep returning to the pull down over and over. The key is to make it fast and easy and keep the palette small. (All the more involved management activities are already covered by the layer and class dialogs.) I would suggest a tall skinny palette with just the names of layers and classes along with the visibility columns as per the classes or sheets dialogs. A way to multiple select would be helpful. Double clicking on the name itself could designate it as the active layer or class. Such a palette could be positioned down the right side of the screen with out eating too much real estate.

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You may want to look at PowerCadd... The layers are in a window that can remain open. Changing Layers requires a mouse click on the desired layer. This is a BIG time saver.

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This is a badly needed feature. I prefer Adobe Type Layer/Classes palette as opposed to a AutoCAD type scroll window. Check out the layers menu in the latest Illustrator 9.0 for some ideas...

Please, please include this in the next rev!

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I ll second that: Layers and classes should be palettes.

And: Perfect palettes should behave the way they do in Photohop. In Photoshop you can move the tabs between palettes and tear them out of in order to create a new individual palette.

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Actually, Adobe is suing Macromedia for copying the drag and drop pallettes. But this is still the way to go imho. VW already uses the palette metaphor, and should just extend it.

We've been asking for this feature for a while now. Don't seem to get any response from the VW team. Anyone listening?

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We've been asking for this feature for a while now. Don't seem to get any response from the VW team. Anyone listening?

There's almost always someone listening, but it's not always possible to send a definitive or even helpful reply. This is particularly true when it comes to new feature requests ? most of us really can't talk about what's being worked on or planned for future versions. The most obvious reasons for this include: we don't want to make promises about a future product that may change before it's released; we don't want to confuse people about what features are in the currently shipping product. So, you're more likely to get a response from someone in tech support or engineering when your question or comment relates to products which have already shipped.

But that doesn't mean that we're not listening when you request a new feature. Many (if not most) of us keep a close eye on these message boards.

If you need a direct response to a question or comment, probably the best bet is to send a message to tech@nemetschek.net .

Caleb Strockbine

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[This message has been edited by Caleb Strockbine (edited 11-09-2000).]

[This message has been edited by Caleb Strockbine (edited 11-09-2000).]

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Color Pallettes that can be enlarged and identified (PAntone #-or specific names"favorite red brick") Transparency in colors would be great for doing glass and shadows by hand.

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A floating plallet would be great maybe something that combines the two features so it could be compact. It would also be nice if there was an easy keyboard shortcut, to speed things up

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Amen, Clicking layers and classes on and off in in one simple place. Adobe has great precedents for this.

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How about layer, class, sheet in a related matrix...default window/palette opens to a layer/class matrix, but going UP the organization leads to sheet list, returning back down, to layer/class by sheet or to default...much like attributes as current, or default, versus controlled by class.

They seem so closely related (layer, class, sheet) it seemed odd, when learning VW, to access them so differently.

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Originally posted by Carl Burns:

How about layer, class, sheet in a related matrix...default window/palette opens to a layer/class matrix, but going UP the organization leads to sheet list, returning back down, to layer/class by sheet or to default...much like attributes as current, or default, versus controlled by class.

They seem so closely related (layer, class, sheet) it seemed odd, when learning VW, to access them so differently.

There is a single place to go. It is called "Layermap" and it seems to be still under developement but NNA has made it available for download. It is even covered in some of the literature. It is basically just what you described, you can control the layer,class, and sheet structure from a single worksheet. I haven't actually used it much but it does deliver what you are after albeit in a rather crude/fledgling form.

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