Jeff Prince Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 I'm trying to import a .laz from the USGS https://apps.nationalmap.gov/downloader/#/ Vectorworks 2023 & 2022 on Mac or Win 11 Pro are kicking out the errors below out. The file in question can be opened in other .laz reading softwares, so I'm thinking there is something wrong with Vectorworks. VWX 2021 just closes without warning when opening one of these files. I seem to remember opening files from this source last year without issue. Any ideas??? Quote Link to comment
Administrator JuanP Posted March 1, 2023 Administrator Share Posted March 1, 2023 @jeff princeCould you share the specific file you are having the issues with? - thanks 1 Quote Link to comment
Administrator JuanP Posted March 1, 2023 Administrator Share Posted March 1, 2023 @jeff prince @Tony Kostreski one of our Landscape architects helped me downloading a .laz file from that page and and importing it in Vectorworks 2023 - see the results. Could you try the file attached and see if you have the same issues. USGS_LPC_MD_VA_Sandy_NCR_2014_18SUJ325303_LAS_2015.laz 1 Quote Link to comment
Jeff Prince Posted March 1, 2023 Author Share Posted March 1, 2023 hey @JuanP thanks for reaching out. I tried the file you linked and it came in as expected. The ones I have been having problems with are the tile described below and to the east. USGS Lidar Point Cloud AZ_MaricopaPinal_2020_B20 w0394n3745 Published Date: 2022-03-31 Metadata Updated: 2022-04-01 Format: LAZ Extent: Varies Strangely, they all open in other GIS & lidar viewers, just not Vectorworks. 2 Quote Link to comment
Benson Shaw Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Confirming: Import fails in vwx v2023sp3 with same error notes as @jeff prince Import succeeds in qgis firenzi Paths to the LAZ file: Opened this, but no joy because could not limit to requested coords/tile: https://apps.nationalmap.gov/downloader/#/ Separate search using tile/coordinate as shown in @jeff prince post. Search term (in DuckDuckGo): USGS Lidar Point Cloud AZ_MaricopaPinal_2020_B20 w0394n3745 Top hit: https://www.sciencebase.gov/catalog/item/624749bad34e21f82763289c Opens to page offering info, thumb of tile extents, & several downloads including this link to LAZ file lower in page. https://rockyweb.usgs.gov/vdelivery/Datasets/Staged/Elevation/LPC/Projects/AZ_MaricopaPinal_2020_B20/AZ_MaricopaPinal_1_2020/LAZ/USGS_LPC_AZ_MaricopaPinal_2020_B20_w0364n3705.laz Downloaded and tried import to vwx and QGIS. HTH -B 2 Quote Link to comment
Administrator JuanP Posted March 2, 2023 Administrator Share Posted March 2, 2023 @Benson Shawthank you for the additional info and the file/ @jeff princeI reported the issue to our R&D team - Internal tracking # VB-193753 - Thanks 3 Quote Link to comment
Jeff Prince Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 15 hours ago, Benson Shaw said: Confirming: Import fails in vwx v2023sp3 with same error notes as @jeff prince Import succeeds in qgis firenzi Paths to the LAZ file: Opened this, but no joy because could not limit to requested coords/tile: https://apps.nationalmap.gov/downloader/#/ Separate search using tile/coordinate as shown in @jeff prince post. Search term (in DuckDuckGo): USGS Lidar Point Cloud AZ_MaricopaPinal_2020_B20 w0394n3745 Top hit: https://www.sciencebase.gov/catalog/item/624749bad34e21f82763289c Opens to page offering info, thumb of tile extents, & several downloads including this link to LAZ file lower in page. https://rockyweb.usgs.gov/vdelivery/Datasets/Staged/Elevation/LPC/Projects/AZ_MaricopaPinal_2020_B20/AZ_MaricopaPinal_1_2020/LAZ/USGS_LPC_AZ_MaricopaPinal_2020_B20_w0364n3705.laz Downloaded and tried import to vwx and QGIS. HTH -B For future reference, all you have to do is put the title of the tile into the search field and select the product category to search In this case "USGS Lidar Point Cloud AZ_MaricopaPinal_2020_B20 w0394n3745". Or I could have just provided the link LOL. 2 Quote Link to comment
Jeff Prince Posted April 15, 2023 Author Share Posted April 15, 2023 On 3/2/2023 at 7:46 AM, JuanP said: I reported the issue to our R&D team - Internal tracking # VB-193753 - Thanks Hey @JuanP or anyone reading this, how does one check on the status of this tracking #? 1 Quote Link to comment
Administrator JuanP Posted April 17, 2023 Administrator Share Posted April 17, 2023 I updated the report - requesting an update from our R&D team - Currently, the issue has been assigned to one of our engineers. I'll provide you with more info as soon as become available. 4 Quote Link to comment
Jeff Prince Posted February 20, 2024 Author Share Posted February 20, 2024 Hey Juan, Any updates? Someone else is running into this issue on the forum, which reminded me about this old thread. Thanks, Jeff 2 Quote Link to comment
Administrator JuanP Posted February 27, 2024 Administrator Share Posted February 27, 2024 @Jeff Prince Sorry, there's nothing new yet. I will share the latest information from the R+D team as soon as I receive an update. 2 Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Dave Donley Posted March 8, 2024 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted March 8, 2024 Hello @Jeff Prince and @Benson Shaw We are updating the library used to import LAS and LAZ files and these imports should be fixed in the next major version of Vectorworks. 4 Quote Link to comment
Jeff Prince Posted March 8, 2024 Author Share Posted March 8, 2024 39 minutes ago, Dave Donley said: Hello @Jeff Prince and @Benson Shaw We are updating the library used to import LAS and LAZ files and these imports should be fixed in the next major version of Vectorworks. That's great news. It would be better if it could come out during the 2024 product cycle. We've been suffering for a while here 😞 2 Quote Link to comment
Benson Shaw Posted March 9, 2024 Share Posted March 9, 2024 @Dave Donley Excellent! Currently, I am unable to open NOAA .laz files. They produce a Corrupt File error. I agree with @Jeff Prince - much appreciated whenever fix is implemented. Earlier would be even better. -B 2 Quote Link to comment
PNWPaul Posted March 10, 2024 Share Posted March 10, 2024 The workaround that I used was to download laszip and decompress the .laz to a .las. Then Vectorworks reads it fine. But it will be nice when it can just import directly 1 Quote Link to comment
Benson Shaw Posted March 10, 2024 Share Posted March 10, 2024 5 hours ago, PNWPaul said: download laszip and decompress Not sure what this means? Can you elaborate? Maybe a Mac/Windows difference. I download LAZ, LAS, Shp from the NOAA Data Access Viewer>Elevation/Lidar: https://coast.noaa.gov/dataviewer/#/lidar/search/ For those not familiar Process is to marquee around the area of interest, Add to cart, go to cart, choose the file type and other parameters. Verify and complete the "order" (free - no charge). Return to viewer if desired - the marquee is preserved for entire session - order another format of the same area. Receive the data usually only after a few minutes. 3 emails per order - Order confirm, Link to the download, Order summary. Files are zipped, but decompress to folders containing the requested shp, laz or other, plus their support files. Shapefile contours import to vwx and georef reliably. LAZ and LAS generate a Corrupt File error in vwx and do not import/open. XYZ files import, but I'm finding their georef does not match the contours. Still toying with that. One zip with a LAZ attached. Can anyone open it? -B wa2016_pslc_king_Job978313.zip Quote Link to comment
PNWPaul Posted March 10, 2024 Share Posted March 10, 2024 13 hours ago, Benson Shaw said: Hi Benson, The program you need is Las Zip. Download it, and it will unzip the .laz (compressed file) into a .las (uncompressed file) for you. Vectorworks will then be able to read it. 1 Quote Link to comment
Jeff Prince Posted March 10, 2024 Author Share Posted March 10, 2024 8 minutes ago, PNWPaul said: Vectorworks will then be able to read it. …sometimes Quote Link to comment
Benson Shaw Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 5 hours ago, PNWPaul said: The program you need Will give it a whirl Monday or Tuesday. Thanks for suggestion. -B Quote Link to comment
Jeff Prince Posted May 16, 2024 Author Share Posted May 16, 2024 On 3/8/2024 at 3:51 PM, Dave Donley said: Hello @Jeff Prince and @Benson Shaw We are updating the library used to import LAS and LAZ files and these imports should be fixed in the next major version of Vectorworks. Hey @Dave Donley I just discovered a very curious thing... When I try to import .las data from NOAA in VWX 2024, it fails. If I try the same in VWX 2021, I am successful. So, this makes me wonder why the older software can import the data but our latest version can not. Are the old libraries somehow better? Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Dave Donley Posted May 16, 2024 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted May 16, 2024 Hello @Jeff Prince, changes since 2021 are an upgrade to a newer version in Vectorworks 2022, and the changes to make Vectorworks ARM/M1-native. 1 Quote Link to comment
Jeff Prince Posted May 16, 2024 Author Share Posted May 16, 2024 20 minutes ago, Dave Donley said: Hello @Jeff Prince, changes since 2021 are an upgrade to a newer version in Vectorworks 2022, and the changes to make Vectorworks ARM/M1-native. Crossing my fingers you guys roll out the fix in 2025 🙂 Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted May 16, 2024 Share Posted May 16, 2024 @Jeff Prince Can you please post an las file that does not import in VW2024? Quote Link to comment
Jeff Prince Posted May 16, 2024 Author Share Posted May 16, 2024 26 minutes ago, Pat Stanford said: @Jeff Prince Can you please post an las file that does not import in VW2024? Sure, here's one I just received from NOAA today. Opens in 2021 and QGIS, doesn't open in 2024. 2010_California_Coastal_Job1014616.las 2 Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted May 17, 2024 Share Posted May 17, 2024 I filed a bug and attached the file. VB-204350. I will post back here if I get any response. 3 Quote Link to comment
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