Turn off auto-scroll at edge of window?

[Thomas H Donalek AIA]

(2023 SP3 on Windows 11 22H2 22621.1105 - not that this matters in this case.)

 

When I inadvertently leave the mouse cursor in certain regions (around the edges of the window), with NO MOUSE BUTTON PUSHED, VW scrolls that window.  

 

Is it possible to turn this behavior off?

 

(If not, why is it not an option in Preferences? Maybe it should be.)

 

Auto scrolling while depressing a mouse button or when a tool is active, for example: click to start drawing a line, move cursor to edge zone, scroll to new part of drawing, click to finish drawing line - that's good.  But simply moving the cursor a bit, such as when the selection tool is active, but nothing is being moved or dragged, and having the window jump somewhere else is not desirable for me and I would prefer to deactivate that passive auto scrolling.  Ideally, I'd keep active auto-scrolling when I'm actively doing something like dragging an object or drawing a line.

 

(I've been pushing myself to use Windows more after years of only working on a Mac - I don't recall this being a problem on Mac, but it might just be a difference in how I work between the two systems.)

[zoomer]

Yes please.

[markdd]

Yes please! It’s such a pain when you are making viewport crops in perspective View. Especially now that screen plane is not an immediate option anymore.

[AlanW]

Hi I have a PC and cant get it to happen. Is it a Mac thing??

[E|FA]

I am not seeing the scrolling behavior without the mouse button being held.  VW2023SP3/macOS 13.1

[zoomer]

AFAIK the behavior on Windows is the same (?)

 

 

When you are in an active Tool, like starting drawing a Rectangle,

and you want to snap to another, second Point

(which may be also already visible in current Drawing Window's zoom level)

and you accidentally touch the drawing border, because you move your (accelerated)

mouse cursor too fast, the Drawing Window View will be (I would say arbitrarily) be dragged

automatically to show that direction ....

 

Which often ends in even have your snapping target point disappearing on the opposite

side of drawing window, if you were not fast enough to move your mouse back.

(which may even result in accidentally now hitting the opposite screen boarder and your

drawing been sent to the other direction ....)

So you need to start a few Zoom Out and In about mouse cursorScroll Wheel Actions

to bring back you drawing window to the center of interest.

 

If some people love it and think this behavior is a great feature, great.

But please optionally. For me it creates more harm than benefit.

I would be fine without that feature and Scroll-about-Cursor to manually bring my

snapping target in place.

Edited January 16, 2023 by zoomer

[AlanW]

@zoomer No additional pan, started a rectangle and pulled mouse off screen to all sides for second point and no scroll.

[Pat Stanford]

You need to hover very close to the edge of the windows to get the scroll to occur. If you have the ruler bars turned on it is easiest to see on the top and left, where the window scrolls when you are in the ruler bar, but the same distance appears to apply to the left and bottom.

 

At least on my Mac.

[zoomer]

Well, have to test again,

 

maybe there were changes to this in VW 2022 or 2023 ?

[Pat Stanford]

It has always been this way for me. At least as long as I can remember. If I go outside of the window (not in the width of the ruler bars), then the panning stops.

 

I actually have the opposite problem to you in that I have a hard time getting it to pan by being close to the edge when I want it to pan.

[zoomer]

It may have to to do with my raw body motor activity,

that I prefer the explicit way of manual personal View Navigation.

Haven't seen that behavior in any App else before VW.

I get scared each time when my View moves away unexpectedly

🙂

Edited January 16, 2023 by zoomer

[Thomas H Donalek AIA]

I have multiple windows/apps open on my Windows machine and monitor (32in 4k).  I'll be working in VW, then go to do something else.  If I move the mouse/cursor to one of the window edge auto-scroll zones inadvertently, then after a couple of seconds, the window starts scrolling/panning.  This wasn't an issue for me on Mac, but that may have been due to using WV on a laptop screen where I only had WV open filling the screen and I would tend to command-tab to other open applications.  I'm not sure.

 

I can totally see why a lot of people would like having the function that when you pause the mouse/cursor near the inside edge of the window, it would pan what you're looking at.  It's fine when I am actively doing something such as dragging out a rectangle.  But this will happen when I am not clicking/dragging.

 

But I would prefer a toggle in Preferences to turn it off (given that there seems to be no other solution.)

 

Actually, I just took a second to try to get it to happen and I can't, which is all the more irritating.  If I click within a few pixels of the edge of the window, it will scroll.  But I have absolutely had the window scroll when I wasn't clicking, and simply moving the mouse/cursor caused the unintended scrolling to stop.

 

[Kazemester]

I wish it was working as it did years ago. The cursor moves out of the screen all the time though when in walkthrough mode...and activates my hot corners all the time. Auto scroll switch should be an extra feature after all these fixes...

[Stefan B.]

Yes, here too i found this frustrating and found this post while trying to figure out how to turn this off.

Vectorworks, please make this optional!

[Benson Shaw]

I’m ok with the Pan triggering at screen edge, it can be useful. But for me, the Pan moves the view very much too far, too fast.  I have not measured, but it seems to jump a full screen width or more at first contact. My reaction to control it may be a zig zag away from then back to the screen edge, causing another big jump of Pan, when only a bit is desired. I keep my mouse  on Slow setting. 
 

The Pan should be optional, and, if enabled, more dynamic. Very slow Pan at first, then auto accelerate if the cursor persists in off screen position. This should be a slider in prefs to control the initial Pan Speed and the acceleration. Similar to general mouse cursor control. 
 

-B

[Whitfield]

YES PLEASE. 

This feature is great with the use of tools, but a recent update has made is much more prevalent when simply using an unclicked selection tool. 

It is so frustrating while making changes in the OIP, to have the screen take off on its own for no reason. 

 

I really hope they fix this. 

[jak5352]

I would like this fixed, removed, or a button to turn this off in 2023 also PLEASE. Like Whitfield said above just moving my mouse over the edge of the drawing screen to grab a tool or to access the object info palette causes my drawing screen to move. I must spend 1 HOUR out of every 8-hour day re-zooming, relocating, recentering my drawing after the screen moves inadvertently!

 

This is a counterproductive, non useful feature. If I want my screen to move, I am happy to hold down the mouse button with or without a tool in place like it used to be in the 2019.

 

Will this be fixed in 2023 or do we need to spend $$$$$$ for a new version to address an issue that seems to have been purposely added to increase sales revenue for the new now "fixed" version?

 

As a suggestion; I understand Vectorworks wants to keep improving the software product by adding new features. After all, if Vectorworks didn't do this we would still be on MiniCAD and the company would be out of business. It is understandable that a company needs something new to sell. HOWEVER, if Vectorworks wants to add new features to their expensive product that have little to no value and serves no practical or useful purpose to productivity, than I would STRONGLY suggest that these new features come with an on and off button.

 

Adding non useful features to gouge your customers into paying for a new version for a fix disrespects the loyal customers you have. Especially the customers that have been loyal to Vectorworks since MiniCAD like myself.

 

Vectorworks needs to address this with a fix since it decreases productivity and the purpose for Vectorworks "enhancements" and new software versions is to increase productivity.

 

My 2 cents.