Selecting spaces in VW 2023

[EliM]

Hi there,

 

Does anyone know how to select a space object in VW 2023 without clicking on the boundary of the space? Often the boundary of my spaces are behind the boundaries of walls and so it is difficult to select a space by clicking on the boundary.

 

In VW 2022, you could click on the space tag and it would select the space object, but in 2023 do so only selects the data tag....

[Tom W.]

You're not alone see:

 

 

[zoomer]

15 minutes ago, EliM said:

In VW 2022, you could click on the space tag and it would select the space object,

 

That is what I would have expected.

 

But isn't that possibly fixed with VW 2023 SP3 now ?

[FBernardo]

1 hour ago, zoomer said:

 

That is what I would have expected.

 

But isn't that possibly fixed with VW 2023 SP3 now ?

 

No, because that is how it works now, apparently is working as intended... 

[EliM]

It is nice being able to move around the data tag so easily now. I just wish that you could, say, hold down ctrl when you click on the data tag to select the whole space object.

[FBernardo]

Hi all, 

The reply that i got from the engineering team from Vectorworks:

 

"this is working as designed. Since VW 2023 the label of Space is now a Data Tag object. So yes, when you click on the "label", you are selecting the Data Tag, and not the Space. The Space shape is then highlighted so you know where it is and can click to select it.

This change allows you to use as many label as you want for Space and to get rid of very old technologies that were used to create the Space label based on a symdef. And Data Tags are great objects with a lot of possibilities to display data coming from Space or even custom records attached to the Space object.

We also have added a "selection group" for the Space object. Very useful if the Space has no 2D Boundaries or if its attributes are transparent. The label was then the only way to select it in previous versions, now there is this "selection shape" to do it.

We will try to improve a bit more the Data Tag - Space integration in future release of Vectorworks, but it's a bit too early to describe this now..."

 

 

[Tom W.]

5 minutes ago, FBernardo said:

We also have added a "selection group" for the Space object.

 

Do you know what this is? I don't understand.

 

6 minutes ago, FBernardo said:

now there is this "selection shape" to do it.

 

Ditto.

 

Thanks!

[MarcelP102]

@FBernardoThanks for reaching out to the engineer. Can you ask him to make a movie? It seems we need to change our workflow. But if no one shows you how to use the tool it's a bit hard...

 

Why don't they make a more in depth movie when they introduce or change functionality? This would save so much trail and error time.

Edited January 12 by MarcelP102

[FBernardo]

19 minutes ago, Tom W. said:

 

Do you know what this is? I don't understand.

 

 

Ditto.

 

Thanks!

 

I did ask about this as i also didn't understood!

 

14 minutes ago, MarcelP102 said:

@FBernardoThanks for reaching out to the engineer. Can you ask him to make a movie? It seems we need to change our workflow. But if no one shows you how to use the tool it's a bit hard...

 

Why don't they make a more in depth movie when they introduce or change functionality? This would save so much trail and error time.

 

I did ask for that 🙂

[Tom W.]

13 minutes ago, FBernardo said:

34 minutes ago, Tom W. said:

 

Do you know what this is? I don't understand.

 

 

Ditto.

 

Thanks!

 

I did ask about this as i also didn't understood!

 

You can give the 2D Boundary 0% transparency + no Line + in this way make the Space invisible yet still be able to select it - and with Reshape Tool reshape it - but this is no different to VW2022...

[MarcelP102]

 - facepalm - 

 

You can click the in red highlighted shape of the space when selecting the tag... also when the lines and fill are set to none. Not sure what the 'selection group' is though.

[FBernardo]

@MarcelP102 @Tom W.

 

See the video attached