pile of crumbled up soft tissue paper

[Bertadesign]

Has anybody got a suggestion how to approach modelling up a pile of crombled up soft tissue paper. I'm attaching an image.

 

[MarcelP102]

Drawing them in 3D seems overkill. I would make them with photoshop and use the image prop tool

[bcd]

Take a look at SubDivisions - with a few Splits, drags, creases here & there and you'll quickly have something you can texture duplicate, rotate and tweak a few times.

You can then convert this to a Symbol and even

Create a Surface Array across a Nurbs Surface using this Symbol or a few slight variations of them.

Edited November 28, 2022 by bcd

[Tom W.]

And/or do it with textures?

 

  

 

[Jeff Prince]

It entirely depends on what you intend on doing with it.

[Kevin Allen]

1 hour ago, jeff prince said:

It entirely depends on what you intend on doing with it.

 

yes. Textures and spheres would likely be my approach.

 

I don't know about the exchange, but some other 3D program might be better suited to this task.

[Pat Stanford]

You probably need something that has a "physics model" in it. That would understand how big each piece was and allow them to interact and stack automatically. In VW you will have to manually position each piece you can't just drop them into a pile.

[grant_PD]

This is doable in c4d with mograph, but I don't think bringing the result into VW would be a good workflow.  The polygon count would bog down the file.  

[bcd]

3 hours ago, jeff prince said:

It entirely depends on what you intend on doing with it.

Yes. 

And if it's simply to tell a story then a little modelling goes a long way.

[Kevin Allen]

Strata used to have a number of functions to explode and particularize. Probably not something VWX users are generally looking for. Unless they are clearing land in Vegas.

 

If those functions, our Strata for that matter, still exist, I have no idea. I also don't know if they can be exported to something importable. Or how much geometry that might be.

[Kevin Allen]

Since Unity is used for so much gaming, I would look for an answer there.

[Mark Aceto]

TM (and UE) will do the physical stacking... after they're modeled:

 

 

[Bertadesign]

I actually tried to achieve it with texture only but you still need to build a geometry that resembles a pile of tissue paper. And even this was not very convincing. At least not the way I did it. I'm not super advanced with textures. I suppose C4D is much better for texture.

 

So I wonder whether @bcd 's suggestion is doable. I will try it. For my design (stage design) it is quite important that I come close to reality.

 

@bcdHow would I do this: "Create a Surface Array across a Nurbs Surface"

 

@Tom W. How can I apply these texture onto geometry? Do these have more of a relief? Would you build a terain like geometry as a base?

 

I want to stay in Vectorworks or potentially Blender and then import to VW as I need the option to create groundplans and technical drawings. Never used Rhino or Cinema 4d.

 

Thank you all!

[Jeff Prince]

why model when you can scan...

Tissue is a little harder to work with than trace paper, nothing a little household rigging can't fix.

A metal dry-cleaning hanger makes the perfect rig for this application.

 

 

 

 

Default VWX 'plastic textile' texture in shaded mode.

[Tom W.]

@jeff prince very cool what is file size for one of them?

[Bertadesign]

@jeff prince Oh yes, very cool. Which scanning software did you use?

[Jeff Prince]

1 hour ago, Tom W. said:

@jeff prince very cool what is file size for one of them?

 

It depends on the mesh simplification you opt for anywhere from 1mb to 10mb

 

38 minutes ago, Bertadesign said:

@jeff prince Oh yes, very cool. Which scanning software did you use?

That was Scanniverse on the iPhone.