lines in rw

[michael john williams]

After much playing about I think I prefer final quality render works to present the drawing, but I would like to get some hand drawn affect to the lines [planners liked hand drawings]and I would like to see the lines as well as the rendering.

I know I will be able to get some from of sketchiness but how do I make lines appear?

[Delmer]

Set your viewport to final quality RW.

Duplicate the VP in place.

Set new VP to hidden line rendering.

Click render settings on hidden line VP, check sketch hidden line results.

[michael john williams]

Delmer

Thanks.........that was a great help........I feel that the elevations are coming together and looking good. Hope the planners think so aswell as they prefer hand drawings.

[ErichR]

I wanna try this.

What's the command for duplicate in place?

[Travis]

Erich,

Just make sure Offset Duplications is turned off in Vectorworks-Preferences. Then all duplications happen "in place".

Good luck,

[ErichR]

Travis,

Thanks. Guess I was hoping there was a keyboard shortcut or some such thing that would allow a duplicate in place.

[alanmac]

In Windows you select the object hold the ctrl key down and left mouse button click to create a duplicate of it in place. Keep clicking for more duplicates. In Mac its the same but use the alt key if my memory serves me correctly tonight.

Alan

[michael john williams]

As this has come up again, I must report that my elevations and views have really improved using this method.

Press crtl and D keys at the same time in windows to create a duplicate.

[alanmac]

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Originally posted by michael john williams:

Press crtl and D keys at the same time in windows to create a duplicate. [/QB]

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Yes that's the one everybody knows because its on the menu, but the mouse click method I found some users did not know about, so thought it worth a mention.

Personally I find it quicker mostly because I've always done it that way, and I've always got one hand on the mouse most of the time whilst using VW.

I do love the greater range of keyboard shortcuts since the move from Version 8 to 10.5 and 11.5. I use Duplicate Array alot and now just doing crtl, alt, D (Windows)is way easier than the old method.

I found on the Apple in the office I need to hold shift as well, otherwise all it does is make the Dock disappear!

[ErichR]

Delmer,

If you check 'Sketch' for the hidden line results, it goes back to wire frame to do the sketch mode. Am I missing something?

[Travis]

Erich,

When you select Hidden Line (as well Dashed Hidden Line and Final Shaded Polygon), you'll note the Render Settings button becomes active. By clicking it, you'll be able to apply Sketch mode to those render options. Very slick.

Good luck,

[islandmon]

Alanmac points out the fact that OSX has numerous keyboard short-cuts that will null those of VW unless the shift key is added to Dup Array and the Workspaces editor updated to accept the new combinations. Via OSX Preferences the keyboard commands can be turned off &/or changed... also check out the Universal Access instant zoom.

[ErichR]

Back to the lines and RW technique. I tried, with success, the viewport method, mentioned above, and then got to thinking and did this:

In a design layer set up a perspective, select all and use Convert Copy to Lines. Use Sketch mode, or Doodle if you want on the result. Doodle is portable, as is Convert Copy to Lines; Sketch is not.

Use the Render Bitmap tool to provide the rendered image you want.

Overlay the line drawing on the bitmapped rendering and group them.

Now you have a "portable" rendering if you didn't use Sketch, and didnt use a viewport. You can move your rendering to another file, save it as a standalone file, export it as an image file, or whatever.

Thank you, Delmer, for the original suggestion. The result is supurb either way.