Separate Default 3D View Projection setting for plan and elevation views

[Christiaan]

1. Control 'isometric' and plan/elevation views separately

We'd like an additional setting under 3D Vectorworks Preferences, to control the default projection of plan and elevation views separately from the 'isometric' views.

 

We have had the ability for some time now to control the default 3D View Projection, between Orthographic and Perspective, which is great.  However, as mentioned by Andy in this thread, if we set this to Perspective then this setting not only applies to 'isometric' views but also to the plan and elevation views, which is not desirable. Instead we'd like to be able to set the isometric views to perspective while setting the plan and elevation views to orthographic.

 

 

 

 

2. Provide option to have these settings apply regardless of which projection the user is switching from

Additionally, we'd like an option to have the above settings apply regardless of which projection the user is switching from, instead of only applying when switching from Top/Plan view, as they do now.

 

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Edited December 8, 2022 by Christiaan

[hollister design Studio]

Thank you  @Christiaan

 

This is very important for anyone doing any 3D modeling.

The inability to do a 3D typical "four-up" with Top, Front, Side, and Perspective hamper VW's utility as a modeling software.

 

Top, Front, Side need to be Orthographic to accurately model.

'Flyover' in Perspective is more natural and helps in finding areas that need to be adjusted for visual/proportional reasons. 

[Jeff Prince]

22 minutes ago, hollister design Studio said:

This is very important for anyone doing any 3D modeling.

The inability to do a 3D typical "four-up" with Top, Front, Side, and Perspective hamper VW's utility as a modeling software.

Unless I’m misunderstanding you, VWX is already doing this correctly with multi view.  Recent example here:

one of my favorite features is the seamless behavior between orthographic and perspective views, as it makes push pull really easy relative to other features in a model.

 

@ChristiaanThis request is a good one, it’s a bit silly having to change the projection back to orthographic when revisiting top and side views from a perspective view.  A user preference would be helpful towards getting things to behave.

Edited September 20, 2022 by jeff prince

[hollister design Studio]

@jeff prince you're right!

When I first got VW downloaded it seemed that all view panes used the same perspective... frustrated me so much I never tried it again.

 

 

 

 

[Jeff Prince]

29 minutes ago, hollister design Studio said:

@jeff prince you're right!

When I first got VW downloaded it seemed that all view panes used the same perspective... frustrated me so much I never tried it again.

 

 

 

 

I came from Rhino, I couldn't imagine modeling without this feature.  I frequently use two view panes to look in plan and perspective or look at two different plan areas of large projects at the same time.

[zoomer]

51 minutes ago, jeff prince said:

I frequently use two view panes to look in plan and perspective or look at two different plan areas of large projects at the same time.

 

In 3DSMax, Microstation, Modo, C4D, ....

I always worked in 4 Pane View only. 3 Orthos and an Isometric or Perspective.

And I felt so limited with that single View Pane in Archicad or Vectorworks and

criticized that heavily.

 

But when I learned about the Num number keys in VW,

I soon realized how fast, intuitive! and comfortable I can switch between

Views in VW, I got used to it pretty fast.

So that when multi pane views were released I just tried that for a while

but soon neglected it again.

 

3D Apps like Modo or C4D allow to quickly switch to a full screen view

from one of the 4 panes and back, so this is nearly as comfortable to

switch between views.

 

But for VW I also always asked for that preselection, to keep all

side views in Ortho Mode 2/4/6/8 (and usually Wireframe Mode),

no matter  how "shaded" or "perspective" my Isometrics 1/3/7/9

are set.

 

 

When I seldom need look at two different plan areas of large projects

at the same time, I think multi pane views is the way to go and I am

happy that VW now has that option.

 

Edited September 20, 2022 by zoomer

[hollister design Studio]

@zoomer - The issue I have with the number keys is that they always move me to somewhere far away from the object I'm working on and it takes a lot of maneuvering to 'find' my place again. If it at least defaulted to 0,0,0 I could handle it...

 

That and the above thought concerning 3D projection.

As you said 2/4/6/8 should be ortho/wireframe - 1/3/7/9 should be perspective/shaded.

Edited September 20, 2022 by hollister design Studio

[Andy Broomell]

@hollister design Studio - Note that under VW Prefs > Display there's a checkbox to "Center on objects after view change" which should help.

 

That being said, this function is broken when editing inside most containers such as Solid Additions, Auto-Hybrids, etc. 🤦‍♂️