trashcan Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Clip cube shows correctly in Design Layer renderer: Wireframe. Making a Viewport and Display With Clip Cube selected. Viewport shows the whole darn model! Buggy-bug? Or is it supposed to work this way? I seem to remember that you could do Wireframe + Clip Cube in a VP. Plz halp What gives? Any ideas? 1 Quote Link to comment
0 Mark Aceto Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 If I understand the question correctly... Whenever I create a VP from a CC, I can nav back to that CC. Whenever I create a VP that's not from a CC, and then check that box, I can create a CC on that DL but I'll have right-click on the CC to create a new VP. That workflow is a bit like creating a section on a sheet layer (like most architects do). It's a bit idiosyncratic but a CC section is a section, so it want to be hidden line. Hopefully some of that is helpful. 1 Quote Link to comment
0 markdd Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Unless things have changed, then it is not possible to have a wireframe view of a ClipCube in a Viewport. The Viewport must be rendered in Shaded or a Renderworks Style. You can get a good "Hidden Line" aproximation using the Lines and Shadows option of an Artistic Renderworks style. 1 Quote Link to comment
0 Andy Broomell Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 It's never made sense to me why Clip Cube works for Wireframe render on a Design Layer but not in a Viewport. Shaded render works in both contexts. Renderworks works in both. Hidden Line works in neither. But Wireframe is inconsistent between the two... 3 Quote Link to comment
0 trashcan Posted August 18, 2022 Author Share Posted August 18, 2022 Ok cool. So it's never worked haha. It doesn't make sense to me why it wouldn't. Glad we're on the same page. Thanks for the heads up. Quote Link to comment
0 markdd Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Mark - I think what @trashcanis referring to is the visibility of the clip cube inside a sheet layer viewport rather than making a section viewport from a clip cube face. Quote Link to comment
0 Mark Aceto Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Confused. Hidden line definitely works when I right-click a clip cube to create a section viewport: Quote Link to comment
0 Andy Broomell Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 @Mark Aceto - we're not talking about Section Viewports at all. Just a view of a model that has Clip Cube enabled. When it comes to Wireframe mode, the Clip Cube works in the Design Layer environment, but as soon as you create a (regular!) viewport, the entire model is shown. Quote Link to comment
0 Mark Aceto Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 minute ago, markdd said: Mark - I think what @trashcanis referring to is the visibility of the clip cube inside a sheet layer viewport rather than making a section viewport from a clip cube face. Totally get that. Thought that others stated that it won't work. I think the closest way to fake wireframe (albeit the most expensive rendering time) would be a to use dashed hidden line (and possibly class the dashed line). Or possibly shaded without textures or colors, grey layers set to 100%, and some other fiddling to get there. Quote Link to comment
0 Mark Aceto Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Andy Broomell said: @Mark Aceto - we're not talking about Section Viewports at all. Just a view of a model that has Clip Cube enabled. When it comes to Wireframe mode, the Clip Cube works in the Design Layer environment, but as soon as you create a (regular!) viewport, the entire model is shown. Sure but clipping a model is essentially creating a section view, so it's really just about faking the wireframe "render" of the clipped model (within the limitations of section viewports). Quote Link to comment
0 Mark Aceto Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 In other words, the requested functionality does not exist, so I'm suggesting workarounds to help find a solution under a deadline (plating up a drawing set) before a VE is released 2 years or never from now. 2 Quote Link to comment
0 Mark Aceto Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Andy Broomell said: It's never made sense to me why Clip Cube works for Wireframe render on a Design Layer but not in a Viewport. 3 Quote Link to comment
0 Andy Broomell Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 @Mark Aceto - That TM should definitely be an asterisk that points to text that says *limitations apply 😁 4 Quote Link to comment
0 trashcan Posted August 18, 2022 Author Share Posted August 18, 2022 @Andy Broomellis correct ! Though oddly, even in hidden line, clip cube doesn't seem to be working either on my VPs. Maybe it's this .vwx that I got form the Lx team. Standby. Nope. Hidden line doesn't honor Clip Cubes. Quote Link to comment
0 Andy Broomell Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) Correct. 4 minutes ago, trashcan said: Hidden line doesn't honor Clip Cubes. Correct. When it comes to Clip Cube: 2 hours ago, Andy Broomell said: Shaded render works in both contexts [Design Layer & Viewports]. Renderworks works in both. Hidden Line works in neither. But Wireframe is inconsistent between the two... For viewports I often use Shaded Background Render with Hidden Line Foreground Render. Since Cube Cube works with one but not the other, the results are not good 😅 Ideally, one day Clip Cube will work in ALL contexts, thus removing any sort of inconsistency. But I'm sure there are technical limitations which makes this difficult to implement. Edited August 18, 2022 by Andy Broomell 1 Quote Link to comment
0 trashcan Posted August 18, 2022 Author Share Posted August 18, 2022 Damn that is silly. (missed you guys) Any work arounds for getting hidden line or wireframe in a clip cube VP? Quote Link to comment
0 trashcan Posted August 18, 2022 Author Share Posted August 18, 2022 I guess I'll just use a section VP 😕 Quote Link to comment
0 markdd Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 For a quick solution use a Custom Renderworks style and use the Artistic tab. Then choose the Lines and Shadows option of an Artistic Renderworks style. 1 Quote Link to comment
0 markdd Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Before the functionality of the clip cube within viewports I made this video. It should do what you need! Quote Link to comment
0 Mark Aceto Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 there are also a lot of options buried in the advanced section settings and class settings the reason i mentioned dashed hidden line is because that will reveal the... ahem... hidden lines (to look more like wireframe) and there might be some other ways to juice the shaded options @michaelkis the jedi master of this (and autohybrid settings / classes) fake it till you make it! Quote Link to comment
0 Mark Aceto Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 also remember that you can spin the clip cube around the model (from clip cube face center) to get the angle / POV you need Quote Link to comment
0 trashcan Posted August 18, 2022 Author Share Posted August 18, 2022 For wireframe, I think the best move is to fake it with section VPs, as hidden line and then override all your visibilities to be transparent... ! thanks again guys, don't know how long I'm back in the world but great to see you all in here. 1 Quote Link to comment
0 markdd Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 And here is a version using the method described in the video 2 Quote Link to comment
0 Mark Aceto Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, trashcan said: For wireframe, I think the best move is to fake it with section VPs, as hidden line and then override all your visibilities to be transparent... ! i need to do this all the time, so this is great! we can beat this together 1 Quote Link to comment
0 Mark Aceto Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Just now, markdd said: And here is a version using the method described in the video gorgeous section line hatch 1 Quote Link to comment
0 markdd Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Its not ideal, but it certainly works OK. Some of the hidden line geometry doesn't really bear too much inspection, but at least its good to know that there is a way! 3 Quote Link to comment
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Clip cube shows correctly in Design Layer renderer: Wireframe.
Making a Viewport and Display With Clip Cube selected.
Viewport shows the whole darn model!
Buggy-bug? Or is it supposed to work this way?
I seem to remember that you could do Wireframe + Clip Cube in a VP.
Plz halp
What gives? Any ideas?
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