Scott Schwartz, AIA Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 As the title says, I want Section Markers showing up automatically in elevation viewports, as easily (cough cough) as grid lines/ bubbles do, even with the graphic manipulation needed. All my section marker classes are on in the VPs. I know I'm missing something utterly simple. Thanks. These shown here are manually placed (and properly linked thanks to @Matt Panzer setting me straight). This will be a royal pain with dozens of sections to manually locate. Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 I believe that if you select the Section Viewport, at the bottom of the Shape Pane of the OIP is a button for Section Line Instances. Click that and you can select the design layers and viewports you want the section markers to display in. Quote Link to comment
Scott Schwartz, AIA Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 @Pat Stanfordit appears "Section Line Instances" only displays Plan view ports. None of my named Elevation Viewports show up in that list. Bummer. Quote Link to comment
DBrown Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Yes, the section line instances only works in Plan Views, the tool is still half baked, you will have to put it manually 3 Quote Link to comment
Popular Post Scott Schwartz, AIA Posted August 13, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 hour ago, DBrown said: Yes, the section line instances only works in Plan Views, the tool is still half baked, you will have to put it manually Thanks. It's as if VW doesn't talk to experienced architects when they setup a tool's features and functionality and how we really use it. 6 Quote Link to comment
rDesign Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Scott Schwartz, AIA said: Thanks. It's as if VW doesn't talk to experienced architects when they setup a tool's features and functionality and how we really use it. ^^^^ 100% ^^^^ I haven’t tried this to confirm, but I think if you manually place a Reference Marker in the elevation SLVP, you can link it back to the Section SLVP - so that at least if the number / sheet of the section changes it should change on the elevation as well. Reference Markers are found on the Dims/Notes Tool Set. 1 Quote Link to comment
Boh Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 The problem with linked section markers iis that they don’t move if the section position is changed. A suggestion is to have a plan with live markers aligned above or below your elevation viewports just off your page. You can then check and realign the markers in your elevation views as need be. 3 Quote Link to comment
Scott Schwartz, AIA Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Boh said: The problem with linked section markers iis that they don’t move if the section position is changed. A suggestion is to have a plan with live markers aligned above or below your elevation viewports just off your page. You can then check and realign the markers in your elevation views as need be. But they could move, like a Grid line does, if VW programmed it to. The section markers already live on the same design layer as the grid so I can display them in any plan view. 4 Quote Link to comment
rDesign Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Boh said: The problem with linked section markers iis that they don’t move if the section position is changed. Absolutely. My suggestion was only meant as a workaround to have at least the number & sheet to be kept in sync with the Section SLVP. VW will have enhance the current Section Line functionality so that they can show up automatically in a SLVP like Grid Lines. Edited August 14, 2022 by rDesign 1 Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Popular Post Matt Panzer Posted August 14, 2022 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2022 We do talk to experienced architects and even have several of us in-house. The needs are well understood. The Smart Markers task was a big undertaking as was the Structural Grids task. Both of these features were developed at the same time and what you’re wishing for was something we actually wanted to do. However, it was too much to do and it didn’t make sense to try to add that functionality while we were trying to develop the same functionality for the Grids at the same time. That said, thank you for bringing this up. I agree that this is a very important feature for architects and, while we do have it on the radar, having user requests like this will help push it higher on our lists. 13 1 Quote Link to comment
GregG Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Please add one more person to the list of users wishing for such a feature in the smart marker functionality 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment
Matt Overton Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 What's this easy grid markers you speak of? Last known feature in that direction didn't seem any easier that having a symbol with the full grid marker run including section markers. Features seem tied to the same per viewport visibiliities interface that make sections lines on plan which is both irksome and inconsistent. 1 Quote Link to comment
TomKen Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 I've requested this feature when they first came out with the new grid line tool. I wonder if there is a way to modify the grid-bubble layout to create a custom style so that it can show detail#/Sheet number with the appearance of a section marker. Then I would only have to place them once in a plan view and have it show up automatically in the section and elevation viewports, rather than doing it manually for every section and elevation viewport. Only thing is the grid-line/section markers would probably not be smart and update when a viewport is moved to another sheet. Quote Link to comment
line-weight Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 On 8/13/2022 at 2:43 PM, DBrown said: Yes, the section line instances only works in Plan Views, the tool is still half baked, you will have to put it manually They actually also work (I think) in non-section viewports. So if you produce your elevations as section viewports (which is what I do) then you can't use it. However, if you produce your elevations as a standard "right", "left", "front" etc viewport then I think you can have your section markers show up automatically. (Not saying this is a solution for most people - just an observation) Quote Link to comment
Scott Schwartz, AIA Posted August 16, 2022 Author Share Posted August 16, 2022 @line-weightThanks. I used the section viewports to produce my elevations as there are multiple structures, site work and retaining walls around the site to get grade at the building. I will try the other "view ways" out on a simpler building. I guess a clip cube view could help? Quote Link to comment
line-weight Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 7 hours ago, Scott Schwartz, AIA said: @line-weightThanks. I used the section viewports to produce my elevations as there are multiple structures, site work and retaining walls around the site to get grade at the building. I will try the other "view ways" out on a simpler building. I guess a clip cube view could help? Yes, that's why I also use sections to generate elevations. I don't think a clip cube will help you - if you generate a view from a clip cube it will give you a section viewport. You might be able to get something to work with overlaid viewports (the main section viewport plus another "view ways" one with everything turned off but the section markers, line up with each other appropriately). But whenever I've tried that kind of approach as a workaround to various things, it usually becomes quite annoying to maintain it. 1 Quote Link to comment
billtheia Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Please add my name to the list of users wanting section markers to appear on elevations. Thanks. 3 Quote Link to comment
Joe-SA Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 I don't follow the forum that closely these days so forgive me for jumping in months later... I did not see it mentioned so I'll give you our solution for those who might not know of this feature. You can manually draw a section mark in annotations. This functions as a 2d mark that you manually locate, however, you can optionally auto-number it by linking it directly to an existing viewport that was created with the Section Line tool in plan. Not as good as automatically having it come in on its own but better than an un-linked mark that doesn't update when detail and sheet numbers are modified during development. For what its worth. 1 Quote Link to comment
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