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  1. This thread is intended to bring together the features needed to bring the window and door tools to what I (and some UK architects I worked with on these) consider maturity. These tools have been neglected for too long. These aren't interface improvements, nice-to-haves or radical ideas, but rather basic features (from a user's point of view) needed to model windows for the vast majority of our projects (mostly medium-sized residential buildings in UK/Europe). The last set of items are the interface improvements, nice-to-haves or radical changes that we'd love to have but I've posted here by way of contrast to the basic features we need for window/door tool maturity. Window Tool: Additional window sash types required (not implemented as of v2022) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/49476-additional-window-sash-types-required/ Additional window panel types required (mostly not implemented as of v2022, louvre vents implemented v2016) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/49477-additional-window-panel-types-required/ Window sill improvements (not implemented as of v2022) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/49479-window-sill-improvements/ Control attributes of individual window panes/panels (not implemented as of v2022) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/49478-control-attributes-of-individual-window-panespanels/ Brick header and decorative window lintels (not implemented as of v2022) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/49481-brick-header-and-decorative-window-lintels/ Support for 3D 'Wall Detail' component returns at windows (implemented v2022 🥳) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/50263-support-for-3d-wall-detail-component-returns-at-windows/ Window setting for Elevation in Wall should be able to reference Structural Opening (not implemented as of v2022) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/93659-window-setting-for-elevation-in-wall-should-be-able-to-reference-structural-opening/ Ability to define sides, top & bottom Window shim gaps independently (not implemented as of v2022) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/95178-ability-to-define-sides-top-bottom-window-shim-gaps-independently/ Door Tool: Explicit door handing (and the same goes for windows) (not implemented as of v2022) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/20228-door-handing/ Ability to define gaps for Door Tool (not implemented as of v2022) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/49508-ability-to-define-gaps-for-door-tool/ Frame stops for Door Tool (not implemented as of v2022) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/49502-frame-stops-for-door-tool/ Custom ID tags for windows and doors (not implemented as of v2022) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/51066-custom-id-tags-for-windows-and-doors/ Bi-folding sliding doors for Door Tool (sounds like it's coming in v2023) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/49506-bi-folding-sliding-doors-for-door-tool/ More refined control over complex door opening arrangements (sounds like it's coming in v2023) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/49504-more-refined-control-over-complex-door-opening-arrangements/ Meeting Stiles for Door Tool (not implemented as of v2022) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/49503-meeting-stiles-for-door-tool/ Window/Door tool interface improvements: Ability to configure doors within the Window Tool (not implemented as of v2022) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/49369-ability-to-configure-doors-within-the-window-tool/ Traditional window schedules (look out for the Graphic Legend feature coming in v2023) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/49480-traditional-window-schedules/ 2D front view vector-based door schedules (look out for the Graphic Legend feature coming in v2023) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/49364-2d-front-view-vector-based-door-schedules/ Ability to define Wall Hole Component of Window/Door Objects (not implemented as of v2022) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/50187-ability-to-define-wall-hole-component-of-windowdoor-objects/ Ability to manipulate windows/doors directly in model (planned for v2023) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/49482-ability-to-manipulate-windowsdoors-directly-in-model/ Ability to define our own sash types and markers (not implemented as of v2022) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/50577-ability-to-define-our-own-sash-types-and-markers/ Need better way to hide Window ID Tags irrelevant to current elevation (not implemented as of v2022) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/53910-need-better-way-to-hide-window-id-tags-irrelevant-to-current-elevation/ Undo function for Custom Sash Options (not implemented as of v2022) https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/51103-undo-function-for-custom-sash-options/
  2. How do I edit the font of the ID Tag for an existing Door Style? Not an instance, but the Style. The only thing I can think of is to replace it with a new Style with the correct font.
  3. Hello, I'm sorry for what I'm about to write but it's quite unbearable to see how nothing is changing on the side of doors and windows tools despite the many comments made on this forum and to distributors (design express in my case). I really do not understand. Doors and windows are important elements in architecture and they are also industrialized elements. Because of their variable dimensions, parametric tools are necessary to avoid modeling them one by one. Why is Vectorworks failing to make this tool? I note that many distributors have created their specific tool and I have tested the following: American, (former) French, German/Italian, Belgian/French/Dutch, Australian. NONE allows to have both a correct use and a correct representation in advanced phase of study. By arguing local specificities, energy was spent for nothing by developing several tools when only one would suffice. Having worked in Great Britain, Germany and France, no local specificity justifies different tools. Please stop this. Would it be possible to concentrate development efforts on a single tool to have a tool that works? From my point of view, but it is debatable, the express design tool (belgium, france) is the most advanced in terms of options and representation, but it is unusable because badly programmed (long time to draw each element ) and because it doesn't have a style option. The American tool behaves well, but it does not offer enough representation and drawing options. Vectorworks, for architects who design spaces and need windows to bring light into their buildings, when are you going to seriously upgrade these tools?
  4. I'm guessing since a google didn't find much that there isn't a quick / easy solve for adding hinges to a door-in-wall object. I mean literal hinge hardware, not showing hinges in top/plan. A door with 3 visible hinges. Couldn't find anything in the RM other than hinges as they relate to Truss. Is this an obvious thing that VWX doesn't have? Making sure before I make a custom door 😞
  5. We have corner windows. We need corner doors too (i.e. support for corner sidelights).
  6. The Plan Wall Offset setting in Window Style > General is currently based on the centre of window frame to centre of Wall. This is not a figure we're generally interested in practice. As designers we're interested in where the outside or inside face of a window frame sits relative to the outside or inside face of a wall, or relative to the outside or inside face of a particular wall component, more often than not the Core component. So instead of being a simple offset from centre of window frame to centre of wall we'd like the following offset options added to the OIP: OFFSET FROM: 1. Outside face of window frame 2. Inside face of window frame 3. Centre of window frame TO: 1. Outside face of Wall 2. Inside face of Wall 3. Centre of Wall 4. Core component of Wall [or, if possible, specific component of Wall]
  7. We must be able to define a ‘Fitting Gap’ for the door leaf (gap between jamb and leaf), which is typically 1 to 3 mm either side of the door and may include smoke seals or weather seals. (If this gap is not supported then we have to make the shim gap or the casing the wrong size to compensate, which apart from being visually wrong also means we can’t schedule accurately). With the above in place we should also then be able to define a minimum clear width, which would be based on a user editable calculation. We must also be able to define the gap between the door leaf and floor ('undercut'). And we must to be able to define the shim gap to the top of the door independently of the sides, as this can often be different. In fact you might as well add the ability to define each side independently as well as this can sometimes be the case. See also: https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/64381-window-and-door-tool-maturity/ UK defaults should be as follows: WIDTH DEFAULTS 7 shim gap 32 casing 3 gap 826 leaf 3 gap 32 casing 7 shim gap = 910 Wide Structural Opening HEIGHT DEFAULTS 15 shim gap 32 casing 3 gap 2040 leaf 20 threshold gap = 2110 High Structural Opening ARCHITRAVE SIZE DEFAULTS The default architrave (trim) should be of the following size: 19 x 69
  8. This one's be doing my head in for years and I haven't got round to troubleshooting it or submitting a bug because it's usually a last minute thing and historically I've just ended up just not presenting drawings how I want to present them. What I find is that the attributes of wrapped wall components ("External Wall Detail" and "Internal Wall Detail" in the door and window tools) cannot be controlled by Class overrides. Worse still you can't get around this by just changing the attributes of the original wall. This is because wrapped components take on the attributes of the wall *at the time* of being inserted into the wall and that's that. It's remains like that no matter what you change the wall attributes to. To change the attributes of the wrapped components you need to update the attributes of the wall and then remove and reinsert the windows/doors to take on the new attributes. Test file attached. If you've found any other way around this I would love to know it. Even if it's some way to reset all the windows at once without having to remove and reinsert them. test-file.vwx
  9. In the Design Day Live Europe Q&A a question about future development of windows, doors and stairs was answered by way of pointing out that Vectorworks is always working on incremental updates to these tools and prioritising which updates to include. Windows, doors and stairs are at the core of our experience, but these tools have been missing key features for many years. Can we have a release where major updates to these tools—instead of incremental updates—are one of the biggest focuses of the release?
  10. Hallo everyone. I would appreciate some help. When it comes to a Door with a Sidelight, I can not seem to change the colour/material of the doorleaf so that it differs to the door frame. For example here below, i wish to have a white doorleaf however in the list of attributes available, the doorleaf attrubute incorporates the Sidelight as well. So that i end up with all white or all gray. The door frame easy to change. Have i done something wrong here. How else can i draw up a door with Sidelight so that the elements remain separate when it comes to attributes.
  11. We need the door tool to support frame stops. These can be both planted or rebated, as attached image. We need this for a number of reasons: Correct visual representation in 3D and 2D views The ability to visually check that we're providing the correct clear opening For accurate scheduling See also: https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/64381-window-and-door-tool-maturity/
  12. section image of door tool, set to round cased opening - really poor and not round!
  13. A couple of challenges: 1. How do you get a flush door pull to sit flush with sliding door leaf? 2. How do you give both sliding door leaves a pull handle? sliding-door-challenge.vwx
  14. Can we have a proper arrow for sliding doors instead of this silly little triangle?
  15. There are various window sash configurations and door opening configurations missing from the window and door tools. See below for the ones I can think of. I'd like NV to support these (ASAP) but another approach could be to provide us users the ability to define them ourselves within the tool interface. Things we need to configure would be 2D plan representation, elevational representation (namely the hinge direction marker), 3D aspects such as if and how it opens and schedule data. And then the infill types. Potentially difficult to implement but at least then we'll be able to add our own types, as window manufacturers come up with them, instead of having to wait for NV. In fact this principle could be applied to parametric objects in general, not just the window tool. Sash configurations: 1. Fixed glass, i.e. sashless (currently only a fixed sash can be created, currently called a "Fixed light") 2. Tilt n turn (implemented, but the ability to choose opening side still needs to be implemented and they need to remain inward opening at all times) 3. Easy-clean side-hung 4. Fully reversible 5. Single sliding horizontal sash (at the moment horizontal sliding sash splits each sash into two when applied) 6. Centre-pivot 7. Sliding sashless 8. Round windows Infill types: 9. Fixed insulated panels 10. Frameless panels 11. Louvre vents 12. Louvre windows 13. Glass block Door configurations: 14. Double acting 15. Fixed door 16. Various missing folding configurations 17. Various missing sliding configurations 18. Stacking 19. Overhead rolling 20. Overhead tilting 21. Overhead sectional 22. Overhead folding 23. Pivot 24. Wall hung sliding 25. Louvre doors
  16. We'd like to be able to configure the louvres in Window and Door objects to be vertical. Currently we're restricted to horizontal.
  17. Can we have support for mail slots in Door Styles please?
  18. Hi all, I cannot find the way to edit the viewing Level Details (if you can call it like that) for certain symbols, like Doors, windows and wall styles, i know when you're creating a symbol you can choose what to see in LOW, MEDIUM and HIGH detail that you can then setup in the viewport but on 2020 i cannot find that option for windows doors and walls, (on how to edit the detail level not how to choose it in the viewport as you can change it easily on the OIP) I've attached the window tool example of what i'm addressing if i wasn't clear on the question. Window Tool preview you can see the differences and for the viewport example where i choose the detail level i want to show, the wall goes from a complete gray to detailed version, i wanted to change this let's say the low and medium settings for the wall i wanted it to be Gray and in the High setting i wanted to see the detailed version of the wall for example, how can you change this either for wall, door and window tool??
  19. We need support for bi-folding sliding doors. There shouldn’t be any limit to the number of configurations (i.e. please don’t use a drop-down list of options, use a Custom Door Options graphical user interface instead perhaps). Examples of common bi-folding sliding door arrangements: See also: https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/64381-window-and-door-tool-maturity/
  20. We'd like custom ID tags for windows and doors. One of the main reasons we need them is to display the fire-rating of doors on floor plans for instance. We used to use symbols for doors, including our own custom ID tag (linked to a record format), and this included a fire-rating field. But now that we're using the Door Object we don't have this capability. The fire-rating is there in the door data but we're unable to display it as part of the ID tag, because ID tags are limited to ID Prefix, ID Label and ID Suffix. You might say that we could use the ID Suffix field to show the fire-rating but we already use this field to identify a door type (and the fire-rating is already has its own field). So a typical door number for us would look like this: D-09-B (D=door, 09=door number, and B=type) WinDoor, for instance, has custom ID tags, which are symbols the user can edit. They also have a second field that you can use for any piece of data you like, such as the fire-rating. See also: https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/64381-window-and-door-tool-maturity/
  21. As we can with Symbols I'd like to be able to define the Wall Hole Component of Window and Door Objects, so we can more easily model modifications of the wall that are associated with a window/door. See also: https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/64381-window-and-door-tool-maturity/
  22. Does anybody know of a workaround for controlling the Texture of a Door object Vision Panel (and the Transom sashes for that matter)? See attached example (v2018). The Vision Panels and Transom Sashes are simply showing as white. example.vwx
  23. Hi, I need to draw a double door set, similar to the image, but without the fanlight, so full height double doors with side panels...any ideas?! thankyou!
  24. We need more options for displaying ID tags. For instance to be able to display the fire-rating of a door (separately from the door ID). WinDoor has some good examples, see below. We also need support for superscript and subscript as some nationalities utilise these for fire-ratings.
  25. We'd like to get rid of the “complex door” XOXOXO drop-down menu and replace it with something more akin to the Custom Sash Options interface in the Window Tool. See also: https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/64381-window-and-door-tool-maturity/
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