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  1. What's your practice with elements which are spreading in height over more than 1 layer? (Quick pic of design in the attachment) I have custom window/door/entrance symbol and I'm inserting it in lower layers wall. The specific wall is 2 layers heigh. So this symbol makes necessary cutout and looks fine in elevation view. I don't succeed to figure out how to make upper layer's plan view so it would look as needed in plan view but wouldn't mess up elevation & other views.
  2. Here's my file. Don't know how to join these components. The middle vertical component should join same color horizontal component in capped mode, as shown with arrow.
  3. When I have my wall styles built from several components and many of them (say, masonry or insulation) used in more than 1 wall style, is there a way of getting total volume of specific component? The workaround I'm doing is to create cell with formula like =VOLUME((L='basement') & (WST='stone 600'))/1000000000/690*600 where "/690*600" is coefficient of specific component (600 mm) within whole wall (690 mm). Later I sum necessary cells to have total volume. This is half-automatic and therefore leaves room for error.
  4. Once I attended presentation of Revit after having worked for a while with VW. My first thought at beginning was - is this Revit or VectorWorks? Because what I saw was very similar to VW. With each of them you gonna have your head aches. The question you should consider is about your options with knowledge of one or another in job market - how many vacancies require Revit and how many VW in your area?
  5. For some reason Labels aren't showing round height but some centimeters below. And the settings seem to be OK... Any idea?
  6. The trick is I don't have one... VW was ordered directly from NNA I think.
  7. I'm doing now first baby steps with Landmark. What I'm trying to achieve is to create site model from 2D topography. With this custom tool I succeeded to create model from text objects representing point Z values. Now the time is for site modifiers. The question is - can I determine a surface bounded by polyline or polygon?Something PAD with FENCE around would ideally do, but which isn't plane? Like top part of embankment. The bounding object has text objects besides with Z values of points on this bounding object. The tope left corner of text objects is where the point is located (X, Y coordinates). I hope I expressed myself clear enough to get the idea! Picture attached should help to get it.
  8. Thanks dspearman, I've got same problem as Dexie and your script (with slight modifications) did the trick! I was trying to create worksheet with DB row displaying X, Y values (via =XCENTER, =YCENTER, before that I had to adjust text alignment properties to center/center) but were out of any luck finding how to get that text content to be shown for Z value. After I would have exported worksheet and imported as survey data. I didn't know the site model can be made from objects other (stake) than mentioned in help (Import Survey File, 2D Polys to 3D Contours, 3D Polys to 3D Loci (Landmark only), and Grid Method Entry). What else was weird that I found this thread using google with "text z value site:techboard.nemetschek.net" query, because local searching engine has limitations for minimal text length. NNA - improve your search engine, please!
  9. I'm aiming to get started with Landmark 2009. On Free Resources page there are materials for VW 2010. While Googling about VW Landmark 2009 I found a link to NNA webpage where I succeeded to download a file named VWL-GettingStarted.pdf (11,8 MB) which looks exactly same as file Landmark-Getting-Started-Guide.pdf (12,3 MB) available on Free Resources page with exception that it has note "Vectorworks 2009 SP3" in the footer, meantime the current file has Vectorworks 2010 in the footer. Are there Data Set files available for VW 2009? Or may be existing Data Set files for VW 2010 can be used for VW 2009 as well?
  10. Thank you very much, Peter! During weekend I realized I didn't test the wrap function and - that was it!
  11. I'm having some drawings with quite long drawing titles. When inserting drawing list worksheet (with DB row showing title blocks records), those text lines aren't fitting into reasonable width of the cell and normal way would be to divide this block of text in 2 rows into 1 cell. Somehow I didn't manage to find solution for this. Am I missing something or is this impossible?
  12. Well, may be there's another way than moving SL (Sheet Layer) for my task. I have many files with several SL in each. In each SL there are several VPs (ViewPort) mostly. All those SL in many files are to be considered as 1 set of drawings. Therefore, for convenience of plotting and sheet name & drawing list management I want to have all necessary SLs in 1 file. I've found that if I do workgroup referencing in this stage I have to re-make from 0 all SLs and VPs in the file I'm referencing those drawings in. Am I wrong with this? And, as I mentioned before, I tried also importing SLs as described in article "Importing Drawing Structure from Standards or Other Files" in VW Help but for some reason it didn't work. Has anybody idea on how to do this better?
  13. Is it possible to import SL or VP from one file to another? I tried to ise import option in organisation manu, but it seems to import only SL properties not it's content.
  14. It would be very useful to have worksheet functions for retreiving X, Y coordinates from symbol insertion point. Existing Xcenter and Ycenter aren't correct for this task. This is original thread about this issue
  15. Is it possible to see door and window ID numbers in elevations and sections?
  16. rofl :D My guess is that they must have been considering this some day (or even more than once) but for some reason haven't produced it or included it in VW.
  17. Guess what... I never tried it.... because the architect I work for won't handle such a complicated and rarely-to-use thing as a script for setting coordinates of symbol into record format. The other reason is that I don't quite accept idea to push the button (your script) every time I want to have coordinate records updated. Shame on me... What came into my head are 2 possible scripts that could be useful in this workaround. 1. Script that mirrors geometry against 0,0 and the mirrored part makes invisible (attributes palette, not special class I thought before). 2. Script that checks if insertion point X, Y matches XCenter and YCenter, in other words - if the symbol is good to go.
  18. And the final solution is to create a symbol in a very special way - so that symbol has an extra objects which are symmetric to 0,0 coordinate and parts which are not desirable to be seen are in non-plot or turned out class. This way Xcenter and YCenter have same value as insertion point coordinates. Haven't tested yet but I believe it should work. Now I did the test and it works. Just note that the mirroring can't be done at 45 degrees straight away, it must be done twice - horizontally and vertically to have geometry symmetric to 0,0.
  19. Indeed "shockingly stupid that it's not immediately possible" and extra step is necessary to "update" the coordinates. Thanks Kool Aid for making this step as one-click-foolproof-step instead of mumble-jumble all the time! Me wonders - haven't functions for retrieving symbol insertion point coordinates into worksheet been wish list request? Ever? Never?
  20. I did use =XCenter and YCenter and I'm getting wrong coordinates. What I entered (and what I see in OIP) is: Nr. _ X __ Y 9 _ -15 __ -20 10 _ 55 __ 21 11 _ 10 __ 50 12 _ 75 _ 115 13 _ 13 _ 113 What I get from worksheet is: Nr. ___ X ______ Y 9 ___ 2.425 __ -0.137 10 _ 72.425 __ 40.863 11 _ 27.425 __ 69.863 12 _ 92.425 _ 134.863 13 _ 30.425 _ 132.863 See attached file. NNA gurus - what's your opinion about retrieving X, Y (and Z) coordinates of symbols in a worksheet?
  21. What's the formula for a cell in database header row to get the symbol's insertion point X or Y value? The one which is in OIP? =XCenter or =YCenter are wrong because they give something like coordinate of center of all geometry the symbol has, not insertion point coordinates.
  22. I can't open the file after I've copied it to my computer. I can open the file on another Mac but after I copy it to my Mac (or use Save As) I can't open it - I get either: "This is an unrecognized file. It may be VectorWorks file created by a newer version of the application, it may be a very old MiniCAD file, it may have been created by another application, or it may have been corrupted by a hardware or system error." either something about I/O error. This occurs also if I copy files from one folder (A) on my desktop to another folder (B) on my desktop. In the files I'm trying to copy workgroup referencing (with relative paths) is used. Has anybody idea on this?
  23. Hi! I wonder how do others manage drawings list creation? If all sheet layers are in same file then I'd just create a worksheet with title block record format fields. I'm facing a project where there are a lot of files with various numbers of sheet layers within one project. The only solution I can imagine is to create worksheet with sheet list in every file and then reference that worksheet into the main worksheet where all drawings would be listed... this is nasty but anyway better than creating everything by hand (because of double-typing error potential). Has anybody a better idea other than this (or creating all projects sheet layers into 1 file)?
  24. Howdy! I'm looking for best practice of creating structural elements in the model and getting out both: correct plan/elevation/section views and correct schedules. If used only in 2D the Detailing tools would be just fine. The trick is - those elements (I-beams, Angles, Channels, Square Tubings) have to be drawn in 3D and then placed in the model in varying directions and meantime remain their high-level object parameters for getting info in schedule. The workflow I'm thinking about is like this. 1. Create Detailing element, say Channel, and make a symbol from it. Modify Channel's parameters until they are as needed. Then duplicate it, ungroup and extrude the duplicate. If diagonal members needed then just 3D Rotate and cut the extrude. Select Channel, assign Record Format to it containing Fields for Number of element and may be something else (extrusion height for having the length of element in the schedule). The element is done. Then insert structural symbols in the drawing as needed. In this manner it should be fine with plan/elevation/section views. Correct? 2. The schedule should have such main columns: number (manually given with Record Format), height, width, thickness, length, total amount of elements, and some other stuff which easily can be get from Record Format or worksheet formulas. I want to get the data automatically with Database row and to have maximum of information arriving in the schedule from model. So my Database Criteria is "My Record Format" is present, include Symbols. Number cell formula is ='My Record Format'.number height cell formula is =IF(channel.d<>0, channel.d, IF(('i-beam'.d)<>0, ('i-beam'.d), IF(('angle'.a)<>0, ('angle'.a), ('square tubing'.a))))/G5 G5 cell is =COUNT then I drag SUM option to Number column and all identical rows are combined. Width and thickness are same as height cell with little modifications. The rest of schedule is peace of cake and not worth mentioning here. This way my schedule is good. And now, where I see shortcomings for such workflow and you expertise could be in place: 1. If changing parameters of 1 element, the both - extrude and Detailing object - have to be modified. Double job - the root of error. 2. Total length of element have to be manually re-written from specific symbol's extrude object to Record Format. Double job - the root of error again. 3. If I want to see the Plan view of all elements with their 3D bodies I'm out of luck, right? Because in Plan view you can see only 2D part of 2D/3D symbol. And also, where I see advantages: 1. If structural symbols are treated carefully enough I get Sections/Elevations and schedule correct. 2. If Plan view question is solved I get everything I need automatically from the model and this is closer to real BIM. What do you think? Is detailing tools with 2D/3D symbols the correct direction at all? Any other ideas & experience?


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