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Brooke

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  1. Well no, I'm not sure if it penetrated and thank you for clarifying... that was part of what was driving my query about the originating data for the drawing label. And I'm still unclear as to why the drawing label is not tracking (as shown in the posted image). (Note to self to further clarify the obvious, and what you told me explicitly: standard practice is to have a separate border/title sheet for every drawing so that each may be paged thereon and so that individual drawings on the same sheet my be numbered automatically.) I wish I could change the class of the title block rather than re-creating it, which is maybe more of an accurate way to describe an 'edit.' (except that the box is made, and importantly the data nodes are present)??? "Edit the symbol again..." I wish I could do that without re-entering the project info from page one of the title block data input (and that I could do a few other things with the title block that aren't working out like I want them to).
  2. For my part, I will chew well and attempt to digest, and very much appreciate you folks' contributed thinking and tips.
  3. Based on what little I have seen and understand, design and viewport scales may have some congruity, generally, though if you had an enlarged or reduced view in a viewport (which is probably as often the case as not), this congruity would be stretched. Do folks usually set up design layers at 1:1 or something approximating the printed scale. It seems the latter since sheet layers have no scale? But that could be adjusted via the scale of the viewport before going to the sheet layer? I copied some text from a design layer (scale 1:48) and pasted into a sheet layer (no scale, only a sheet size); the result were super scaled text blocks which I had no success in re-scaling (would have thought 1/48). I was allowed to copy and paste a border accurately, since VW 'knows' what a border is, I guess. And when one must accurately draw on a sheet layer (say on a converted to lines viewport elevation), one must do the scaling math? (And thus, don't do it?) I apologize for this rather poorly sorted mix of ignorance.
  4. I changed the border class to 'border 18x24' and the design layer to a layer also named 'border 18x24'. When I set both class and design layer visibilities to active only, the border itself is visible, but the title block on the border is not (some ungrouped text groups are, though, as expected). When I change layer visibility to gray others, both the border and title block remain black but when I change the class visibility to gray others the title block goes to gray while the border remains black... So the title block has a different class than the containning border?? And how to give it the same border 18x24 class?
  5. Yes, thank you, Peter, that does make sense... including the important fact implied that once you select the VP you are controlling for that VP only and not the sheet itself. Can one do that for the sheet layer itself? Probably not. One must add the border to the sheet layer also.
  6. Class is visible. Design layer is grayed out to active only. I thought that was OK as I thought design layers were physical levels of sorts which had no relevance to sheet layers...??
  7. I'd like to do that also, perhaps for an early schedule where different detail keys, etc., are not required. But, Ariel, I don't understand why you say " I can probably place summarization icons for those other columns but I'm only allowed up to 3," when all you really want is for the identical 'Marks' to be summed. You want to sum that one column only. I can't get VW to sum any column, only rows (and not one but all rows), as I thought you noted, eventhough help says "Summarizes identical database items in the desired column. Click and drag the icon to place it over the desired column header. An icon is placed next to the column heading letter. Identical items in the columns sub-rows are grouped together in a single sub-row."
  8. Good guess on the possibility of different layers, but they are on the same layer: border-18x24. Different classes: border/title block: notes-common and drawing label: notes-new floor plan. Title block is "my custom title block-4."
  9. Thanks very much, imon and Wes. I think my problem was that I was thinking that since I already had a border in the file that its class could be set to visible and it would appear on a sheet layer just as it does on design layers. I will get with it. Or some portion thereof, sometime.
  10. Thanks, Pat, but my problem is not with the total number of sheets but rather that the individual drawings on each sheet labeled with the drawing label function do not track the sheets on which they reside.
  11. Forever the problem for the green of us: please entertain this scenario. In a renovation project, for example, exterior walls are being reworked, so at one location in plan there may be these classes: walls - existing to be removed; to be shown for a demolition plan walls - new - to be shown for an proposed floor plan windows - existing - to be shown as is for an existing floor plan windows - existing to be removed; to be shown for a demolition plan windows - new - to be shown for an proposed floor plan doors - existing - to be shown as is for an existing floor plan doors - existing to be removed; to be shown for a demolition plan doors - new - to be shown for an proposed floor plan There may be these drawings, with the listed classes (graphic attributes) visible: 1. existing floor plan walls existing to remain (continuous line) walls existing to remove (continuous line) windows existing (continuous line) doors - existing (continuous line) 2. demolition plan walls - existing to remain (continuous line) walls - existing to be removed (dashed line) windows - existing (continuous line) windows - existing to be removed (dashed line) doors - existing (continuous line) doors - existing to be removed (dashed line) 3. proposed floor plan walls - existing to remain (continuous line) walls - new (continuous line, bolder) windows - existing (continuous line) windows - new (continuous line, bolder) doors - existing (continuous line) doors - new (continuous line, bolder) To avoid the somewhat predictable mess I have gotten myself into, compound objects, i.e., all walls (windows in walls, doors in walls) should be classed as 'none,' but then.....since the objects in those walls may be desired visible at different time, the walls visibility may be incorrect at different times. Contained objects must be duplicated in place, since the same objects-in-walls are required in different drawings with different desired graphic attributes, and as the container wall class should be 'none.' And since the class of container walls should be 'none,' graphic attributes of contained objects must be by class. This is a mess, and a great deal of duplication is required. Please comment.
  12. How does one get them to a sheet layer? When I try to change the class state of my border/title while viewing a sheet layer, so as to have it visible, nothing happens.... even with the border brought to the top of the stack... Thank you, Wes.
  13. Thanks, Pete. It is very helpful to get an idea of an effective workflow, as the tools go under utilized here without. If sheet layers are typically the object which is printed, then they have borders and title blocks like design layers? But these things may be of classes which cannot be revealed in sheet layers (or I have not succeeded in doing so). Clearly missing a few essential concepts, here.
  14. After finding no reference to speak of in the VW Arch/Des files (how can that be?), I searched here and see that 'section viewport' creation may be the preferred method for creating exterior or interior elevations. I tried it and am doing OK. Any further pointers on a gratis tutorial or thread would be appreciated.
  15. I understand editing of the title block and that tracking sheet settings may be set, but since tracking was not working for me I was wondering where that info comes from. In other words, I had my drawing titles set to track the drawings sheets but the drawing labels said "Drawing No." instead of the actual sheet no. (as it really should say, since the upper no. is the drawing no. and the lower is the sheet no.). The sheet no. was properly shown in the lower right hand drawing no. location (which again I think should be 'sheet no.' since there may be many drawings on the page). Pls. see image for example.
  16. Where does the border/sheet get the correct sheet info? Since I don't have sheet layers properly set up I'm hoping it can be from somewhere other than there.
  17. I find no class settings possible for title blocks in borders but they do not track the visibility of the border class. Must they not be grouped with the border for this control (sounds like a workaround, but not correct)? If one has but one border in a drawing set, as would seem ideal, and one title block linked to that border, how do are the sheet numbers and thus drawing numbers linked to the page numbers on the title block/border? (I know I've got to get with the 'sheet layer' program, but it's just a bit of a mess of unexpected behavior that needs sorting in my little head.)
  18. Thanks for that clarification, brudgers. So the hatch of a polyline is a hybrid object, as I guess is the room name text, so no delta-z in 2d but layer stacking should still affect 2d display frontedness....Stacking still not working for me on this. (I prefer all 3d...plan view is 3d, no perspective with a cutting plane at a certain Z - then you can have consistent behavior? No doubt this has been thrashed about elswhere in the forums for ages...)
  19. Thank you, Pat. Perhaps some refresh of some kind is needed that way, but doing as you suggest while within the cells produced the desired result, albeit at the cost of many clicks.
  20. Trying...first shots... Schedule shows dimensions without units specified: 4"0" is shown as 4, which does not tread or communicate well.
  21. I see. Thank you. Perhaps it is a recurring beef that input is accepted on such occasions but discarded without notice. The standard for such is to gray out and not accept data and it should be so here also, it seems.
  22. Data like rough or masonry opening...I change and save it by clicking OK but values are not saved, though some others are like manufac and model. Perhaps the prog is second guessing me. Probably not a bad thing, but this time I'm looking at the manufac's data sheet.
  23. Thanks very much, Ray and Pat. Text on different layer, yes. I knew I had seen the stack options, but as seems typical I couldn't find the info when I needed it. Interestingly, changing the stack of the text and hatch (of polyline) objects via ctrl-F and -B didn't work. The layer stack should already facilitate what I want ("notes..." is above "site..."). Complications: The note was copied from elsewhere and edited so it may still be considered older; the hatch is in a group with the polyline; text is actually a room name object. Creating new text works as predicted.
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