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  1. So that's why you're the moderator. Bringer of calm, giver of renewed inspiration. Hold on to your hat VG, we're still docking!
  2. uh....? are you joking? That quote is a strike on an individual? have you actually read anything in context as it is posted or do you prefer to piecemeal the conversations according to your whims? don't worry, that's it, I'm signing off, canceling my account, actually can you? or is this message going to be misinterpreted?
  3. Sorry Pete. My tone is one of frustration. Frustration that I've spent the last 2 months trying to learn a program that IMHO, is not as good, or not targeted well at designers than a program (you know the one) that I've worked w/ for about 1 1/2 years. No, not much time at all. But certainly enough to make a comparison. Now, you might say, gosh, 2 months isn't very much at all. You're right. But there are many similarities between the programs which prevented me from having to re-learn stuff twice. And, using this helpful forum (thank you all) to find answers to questions much quicker than muddling through them on my own. Context: Residential. 5,000-10,000 sqft. As for the quoted material. It is Mr. Anderson's white paper on VW and how it fits in to BIM. Found on NNA's website.
  4. I never said forum, I said VW, meaning the software, or, the people behind it. I should have said the official NNA website? would that be appropriate? read the posts first You responded to the other one about acad and simply pasted in some official NNA rhetoric, that wasn't what the conversation was about, I don't mean to petrify the situation w/ mean comments, I'm sry.
  5. what? so you're telling me mr. anderson doesn't speak official NNA rhetoric? http://www.nemetschek.net/architect/bim.php mr. anderson's white paper
  6. Wait, so you can't work between acad and vw? When I import a dwg it maintains all the info. I don't need to retrace over acad lines or anything? are you talking about dimensions, or the layers? they don't translate? VW is a fine CAD platform, no arguments there. Graphically, very mac and all fine... ACAD and Revit are two completely diff. programs though. The nice thing about revit is that it was designed from day 1 as a parametric modeling program. It wasn't a cad drafting program w/ years of shoe-horning to try and be something else. It didn't work w/ autocad. They have architectural desktop, among others, that are all expensive add-ons to acad that bring a 3d architectural, or engineering, or..., aspect to it. It is slow and cumbersome and being phased out w/ revit as the replacement. The same problem vw seems to be having. Maybe nna should go out and find a revit to swallow?
  7. It's on your website, NNA? I followed the BIM link from the forums, posted by a moderator. I understand that they are marketing strategies, just a little frustrating when trying to figure out the truth, which happens to be subjective anyway so... or.... a sack w/ wheels? now that's an idea!
  8. I've spent the past 2 months trying, in vain, to believe. It is a very hard sell, especially when it runs so slow.....
  9. Hey Tom in PA, You should give Revit a try! Oh btw, don't listen to any of the horse **** being thrown around by VW: You do not need a third party drafting program such as cad to do any drafting whatsoever. The built in drafting commands are quick, efficient, and all that are needed. I started out thinking it wasn't as quick as cad, but soon realized it was just as quick if not quicker. The drafting overlay (annotation views in VW) can be locked (constrained) to those objects and move when they move. The extensive documentation is a good thing! Having a rigid work flow/environment is also a good thing. It is simply a framework for a new user/employee to 'jump' in and know, based on this framework, how the project is co-ordinated, structured, organized. These are some of the cons to using Revit posted on the VW website, all horse ****!!!! and sry, nna, just one man's opinion! and let me finish by saying that Revit has its own set of issues and difficulties to work around, it is just a few releases (unkown) years ahead of VW. That's all, hauling rocks w/ a sack compared to using a wheel. wheel, or sack, that is the question.
  10. Sigh, sigh, dbl si... It can do it... It can't do it... It can do it... It can't do it... Hmmm... A bunch of nothing...
  11. Thanks again for the help/advice/direction. So Mike, you aren't having difficulties with the size of the BIM file? That was the core of my original post, "Why is the flagship BIM file/model so heavy and clunky, this doesn't seem right, or am I misinterpreting?" My insistence with this might seem a little anal, but I'd like to help my office move towards an integrated BIM approach, (the way one is forced to work in Revit, although as you say Petri, the flexibility in VW is tantamount.) and I don't want to push for a workflow that will be no more productive than traditional "dummy drafting" When I open up the, not so large project, BIM sample/example file, it scares me. It is slow, and there isn't that much stuff there! BTW, I hate drafting! I hate having to rotate elevations and line them up w/ my plan and "figure out" sections. I've already done that! Why do I have to keep doing it! over and over and over, One model, one time! "But 3d takes longer" ! Having to make the same change 5 times takes longer!
  12. Thanks again for the time, I was reading through some of the past WGR posts and am trying to wrap my thoughts around this "new" (to me) way of organizing the building information. I guess one of the primary concerns, workaround, issues, is working on an isolated plan in a file, w/out being able to see the other pieces. How about editing an elevation when you can only see one level at a time? How would one do this? Let me outline a scenario: File 1: I draw some guides for my property line, setbacks and restrictions, then start drawing the floor slab and walls for my first floor plan. File 2: Then I want to start in on my 2nd floor but I can't see my first floor? I have to WGR my 1st floor file to my 2nd flr file so that I can see what is going on below. File 3: Roof File 4: Basement (Master) File 5: I have all my separate files that I now want a complete model of. I open a new file, set up a Model layer, then WGR all of my individual files/specific layers and Link them. So.. When I WGR say, my 2nd flr file in to the "master" file, will there be extra WGR's (ie. bigger file size) because there are "imbeded" layers in that file (the first floor file)? So I am redundantly linking my 1st floor file: separately, then imbeded in the 2nd floor file? Work with me here, sry for the verbosity, So when you say several master's this is because there is a redundancy in referenced files? And obviously there are many ways to do this, I'm just using this as one viable scenario. (or not?)
  13. So you build in pieces and then assemble, similar to say, Solid Works? Do I have my annotations for each level in those files, or in the master file?
  14. ? I'm not following... So let's start w/ an example: I have a simple 2 story house w/ a pitched roof. The 3d geometry of the 1st flr, including windows and doors, would be it's own separate file? Then the 2nd flr. Then the roof. Then I would have another separate file (master) where I WG reference each of those three files so that I can have a completed 3d model that I can get views of and so forth. This is how you do it?

 

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