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we're talking about petri, in his many guises, and grandmother has also warned me off baiting him. he's a pain in the but i've learned more from him, than almost anyone else, and also been insulted by him more than anyone else, but i'd prefer he was not 'disappeared' every time he offended 's sensibilities... maybe it is time for an alternative forum

what practical effect does changing the "film size" have on a view? the OIP shows a changed "focal length" but as far as i can tell there is no change at all on the view. the manual says it "has no effect on the camera view" what is the point of it?

it's a "feature", the "auto join walls" preference, and may be due to some walls not being utterly parallel. go to 'vectorworks preferences' + deselect 'auto join walls' you will have to manually join walls + clean up edited junctions, but at least you don't have to deal with infinity walls... good luck

not sure using walls is going to help, unless they've fixed the texture going to hell at the ends of the walls as it does in VW12.5....

dworks, does the floor tool take textures on the edges + underside in 2008+ ? in VW12.5 it doesn't, so i use the slab PIO, which does. it also has classing for 2d + 3d appearance. by patrick higgins from vectordepot.com mac - http://www.vectordepot.com/downloads/Slab.sit pc - http://www.vectordepot.com/downloads/Slab.zip VW10 +

it happens in VW12.5 too, i think it's a 'feature' i can't replicate it on a consistent basis, but when it does happen it seems to revert to the font that was 'default' at the time the section was first created. when it does happen, i set the default font to what i want the section markers to be, delete the dud section + then recreate it... this works enough of the time to make the work around worthwhile for me... other times not...

ray, if you hadn't guessed i'll let you in on a secret; they're not real quotes!! really! one, which was nearly correctly quoted> but they are the overwhelming impression i get from the posts on this board about 2009's performance... as for dodgy advertising claims "... work 10-12 times faster." is well up there... am i wrong?

rogue classes? let any student on a vac job near a drawing...

"I will send you" "Where are you sending me?" "err, what are you sinking?"

don't you love the advertising "10x faster!!!" and then later "ummm, ok, faster, only in 3D!" and... "faster only in 3D, on a smaller screen!" and... "faster only in 3D, with 4Gb, on a smaller screen!" and... "faster only in 3D, with 4Gb, on a smaller screen, as long as you're not rendering!" until finally... "ok, ok, it's a hell of a lot slower!"

i am using saved views less + less now that we have VP's, but still use them for the design layer production, flipping quickly to different class settings of the same view, turning all the presentation crap off to get to the structural minimum, very much faster than messing around with classes + layers in the nav palette. BUT.... it also can lead to disasters on sheet layers when a title block or even a VP is created using an incorrect + obscure class. after using a saved view which turns off that class + then batch printing you discover the sheet layers have all sorts of things missing only once it's on paper on the client's table because you didn't have time to check.... the antidote to this is to either make sure you have a saved view that turns everything on before batch printing sheets, or be religious about keeping everything on a sheet layer the none class...

there wasn't an option for 'virtually useless'...

chad, don't use the create schedule command, rather just make a blank worksheet with a database in it as per GMM18's example above

chad agree 100% wes's suggestion was ludicrous, but i did like the Voila!

matt, back to your original post; i assume spotlight uses the same "drawing border"?> 1 open the "Drawing Border Components" symbol folder + edit the 2d symbol there. finish + go to the sheet layer at the top of the list. 2 select the border + toggle something like "Fill Border" in the OIP, and the border will update to your new title block. 3 Use ctrl-down to the next sheet, select border, toggle "fill border". ctrl-down, select border, toggle "fill border". etc etc for only 20 sheets this is faster than writing a script, although i'm sure petri could do a script like this with his eyes closed. you aren't likely to change a title block graphic retrospectively too many times in a given project? another way around is to use the "info editor" tool by charles chandler, from http://scs-inc.us. in info editor, have the "all layers" constraint on, select "drawing border", select all entries, toggle a meaningless setting, done. hope this helps

pat the area indicated on/by a space object in VW 12 is not very pretty but it can be extracted fine as a number on a worksheet database. =(Space.Area) gives you the area as a number which can be totalled

oooh, abuse!, beat me! beat me!

aah, only a month ago i was beginning to miss petri, was the absence a fit of pique? an NNA banning? incarceration? a hectic project? whatever... but now, what, only a few weeks back and he's back to venting + stirring wherever he can find it.. i still think we need to get the medication better balanced, amongst all the self-righteous vitriol there are real gems to be had, there's just so much to wade through... petri, please put me back on your ignore list kisses kisses

don't take ray too seriously, he is suspiciously 'pro' VW... in our workspace VW crashes + burns at least once a day, while the ACAD types next door seem to churn on pretty solidly for days or weeks without the gasp + slap of the mouse as the drawing dissolves into the aether. we all have similar hardware + version to version we crash more than them that said, we do much cleverer things with VW, and produce much nicer drawings, much faster than the ACAD's. for our scale of architecture VW is head + shoulders better than ACAD, but that doesn't mean it isn't cranky as hell...

and because the US is the largest market for VW<?> it's lumps for the rest of the world....

yes we all did, mine was a double helix inside an old brewery... i would separate out floor layers from walls, slicing the wall plans in some 'logical' way related to fenestration or outside connections, and have a floor plan for each floor level. that way you can present the floors in relation to each other, even graying out ones further below with class overrides on a number of viewports layed on top of each other, with whichever plan, or cropped portion of plan that is appropriate to the floor being displayed...

there is a free PIO tool that does exactly this, you draw a line, it draws a jaggy line, with parameters to customise the look .../|/\|\/\||\.... it's called "gazon" by sylvain jacquemet, VW12 or higher, at the vectordepot.com PIO site http://www.vectordepot.com/plug-ins/

donm, if you're using 12.5 or below: make a new layer, active only + 'layer link' all the relevant layers, with the 'show 2d' option OFF. make sure that 'stack layers' is turned OFF use either class or material mapping in VW to set the parts that will receive artlantis materials. export to artlantis with the update option, so that you don't lose your artlantis materials, cameras + lighting. BTW, the '2008' plugin from artlantis, that gives you the choice of artlantis 1.2 or 2.0, ALSO works with VW 12.5.3

wes did you do this in 2008 or 2009? 12.5.x has never been able to do it....

BIM will give you another bed of pain to writhe on. apart from having to sort crap out on site, because the builder enjoys ignoring drawings; you can now do it all in the office first, because whoever is working on the model can't agree/get it right/CAD won't let them, and then do it again on site. it will also help you get sued a second time, and be late to site, because the model has to be very substantially complete before you start getting the useful results out of it. it will slow you down as you try to fix all the little bugger-ups on screen, rather than lashing a quick setting-out drawing down to site. and then the client changes their mind and you find, and try to fix, all the little knock-ons on-screen rather than spending time on site with people who can probably sort it out quicker than you anyway... at 4 a.m. it's faster to start doing A4 hand sketches + lash them down the fax line bring on the holidays, i need a break...