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1. converting geometry (3d mesh) to walls?

alextoevs. a core strength of Vectorworks are it's intelligent walls that allow objects(3D doors and windows etc.) to be plugged into it while at once calculating volume and area with on the fly adjustments to width and height. This same object has both a 2D graphic and an independent 3D aspect that accepts unique textures for rendering that are linked to classes or it can be independently managed. VW is incomparable to sketch-up. Most modeling programs are not specifically for the building industry. It's inabilty to convet your object to a wall therefore makes sense to me. You can work with the 3D objects in VW to create you own openings for customized doors etc, but it's less efficient and does not perform the intelligent tasks noted above. You can also create a plug-in object (say a custom wall opening) which plugs into walls. Walls and 3D objects happily co-exist in a VW model, but they do not interact too well together. As I recall though, you can cut an opening in a wall object with a 3D object but the edge modifications for example do not work on walls. On the other hand, get a VW wall the way you want it and convert it to 3D.

No, given the pattern, it's more complex than a rail. Please elaborate if I am missing something and thanks.

Yeehah, it attached!

The attached image (which refuses to attach despite the MAC OSX / Netscape browser?) indicates a solid object that was sliced at a 30 degree angle from a 360 swept drum. The object will eventually be a stool. I am not certain if the X shaped surface pattern will be recessed or raised but I am wondering if there is an easier method than what I have started here. In front elevation, polygons are constructed and then extruded (in between the X's) which are then used to modify the wedge. Only the bottom most triangle has been applied thus far. I extracted the edges from the solid object and cut them at third points to create accurate 3D snap points and then used Nurbs curves to create the X's. 3D polys were an option but in both instances, the lines are flat and do not follow the outer curve of the drum, thus the dilemma. I would extrude along path if I could follow the face of the drum. How best to create a double curving lattice object? My best assumption is to create a 30 degree slice and array it 12 times in plan to complete the circular stool.
5. VECTORWORKS 2008

Christian indeed, but it's the repeat blows to the back of the head that really get me down.... My version of your quote was as much to say that I could not find the discontent or lapse of judement in my assessment. As a matter of fact, I still hold to it including my total committment to the software. I moved to LA 6 years ago which has about 1200 arch firms yet only about 50 use VW and started teaching it to see wht impact I could make. I worked it out professionally and feel disappointed that many little issues were overlooked as I stated. All is well, and hopefully soon, \$695.00 will not feel like a big hunk a cheese!
6. VECTORWORKS 2008

jan15, being right isn't all that's it's cracked up to be. I come here for answers and not personal comments from people who have too much time on their hands like Petri appears to have. His response is to show me that he knows more than me about a topic. Isn't that why we come here? That's like a pedophile driving an ice-cream truck for gosh sake; a vampire of the uninitated! I am an architect and USER of Vectorworks and have little interest in the programming, the creation of macros or the more challenging formats that databases require. Despite this, I figure them out by asking as well trial and error. If a person such a Petri understands this, it is my view that we all could benefit from this knowledge though we get to hear blithering rants that do not translate into practical application mostly and the comments are personal as well. I for one have little interest to understand a person of this nature and would rather steer clear, but he hunts you down to further demon-strate himself! I think I will start calling him Petrified on those occasions that he meanders by. Back to VW...
7. VECTORWORKS 2008

Petri, each time I have an exchange with you I am most convinced that you are an inane idiot and should be stripped of your intelligence for the betterment of mankind... You must practice being a 'duly enshrined' annoyance! Good lord man get a life! These are some more of my views...
8. VECTORWORKS 2008

Robert thanks, Re LEVELS, when a building is not rendered and an object needs tweaked, rotating to elevational view is the best way to see where it is but at the same time it's incredibly muddled due to the density of the lines. Turning off classes does not work because I need the WALL class ON to complete the task. I am thinkng that if each object was ALWAYS relative to a UNIVERSAL ZERO POINT (not unlike the elevational flags capability to do the same), then the bottom of the wall for example could be displayed in the OIP as Z (bottom) or Z (top) and no relative tweaking would be required. Universal 2D coordinates already exist but are not too useful to architects in the day to day. STACK LAYERS still evades me! Re WORKGROUP REFERENCES, the updating of a file that several people are working on at the same time is the most challenging issue. For now, I separate out the 2D sheets from the 3D sheets as a separate file to accomplish this goal.
9. Exporting from sheet laywers to DWG

A side note, download the incredibly valuable and free "eDrawings" which allows you to see the .dwg or .dxf once exported. This software is simpe and includes zoom capabilities and tells you what you are exporting BEFORE the consultants see it and complain. As far as the Exporting sheet layers, I have had the same problem as well the layers rescale to a single scale to be autocad compatible. If you have a sheet of details, fuggetaboddit! One layer at a time.....

11. STACK LAYERS (Not available) in VW 12

Hi Katie. I am not sure that I understand your answer. I originally upgraded from the academic version so I have all the modules. Are you saying that the particularl workspace I am using (customized) includes items that are part of Fundamentals and therefore is not available to a workspace that include Fundamentals features? Thanks...
12. STACK LAYERS (Not available) in VW 12

Why are STACKED LAYERS not available in VW 12 for some users? This was one of the reasons I purchased the upgrade and eventually gave up trying to make it work. Since I purchased VW12 and upgraded to to12.5, my workspace relentlessly states that Stacked Layers are not available do you still want to save or something like that. Other users have mentioned this same problem and I have not seen a solution as yet.
13. VECTORWORKS 2008

I have been using Vectorworks since it was Minicad many years ago. I am therefore clearly a supporter and consider VW to be unparalleled BIM software. I am an architect an designer and instructor as well I use this software and hire only VW users for my company. Nuff said! Now for the bad news, besides the incredible Two-way worksheets which is long overdue and usurps the attempts made by the author of the 3rd party add-on called INFO EDITOR and Julian Carr's Aussie version of the same thing, as well the Return to Viewport button, I am disappointed with the new featuers in the latest release. Who needs to draw walls in 3D when you can rotate in 3 seconds? I have not purchased 2008 but I have reviewed the featured videos and frankly I would not readily pay \$665.00 (upgrade price) for these features although the Two way worksheets are so desperately needed I might not have a choice! :eek: What about a graphical update and a resource browser with better resource labels, you know, the many little things?
14. SAVED VIEWS vs VIEWPORTS (You too?)

If I was not clear I am specifically referring to construction drawings. I too use Saved Views as a working environment and I generally name them according to the sheet where the information will ultimately be printed (IF ONLY TO FIND THE DATA). A-1.0 PLANS for example. The issues of things disappearing, export issues a well naming need solutions. I'm not railign against VP's. I feel like I'm reading a book and must wonder if the next page will actually be visible and centered! I must be able to quickly find and quickly edit a sheet that remains as I last left it. I suppose it's how I work. I design and compose at the same time. Drawing at 1:1. Never thought of that one. Somehow I think that would be a line weight nightmare. NAMING: - Why when you choose SHEET LAYERS in the ORGANIZATION Dialogue are VIEWPORTS not an available list? Also, when I see the list of VP's, I can't make heads or tails of which one is which and Preview does not respond. Viewports should default to VP-(Name) so they can share the same name as the primary layer or data or detail they are sourced to. This is a concern for projects that require many sheets and many layers and classes.

17. CONTROL POINTS and WRAPPED COMPONENTS

P. Retondo I just figured both questions out and have returned to answer my own questions. Clear on the greyed COMPONENTS Tab. Regarding the control ponts, these are indeed movable by placing the curser over the control point at the CL of the wall, it slides along the CL creating symmetrical offsets. It can also be dragged forward or backwards relative to door trim etc. Excellent! The text states that precise pacement is possible, and then sends you on your journey to trial and error it for hours. The first many times I attempted this, the walls remained engaged but the cursor grabbed the door symbol rather than a control point. Be warned, using compnents looks accurate but it's very time consuming during CD's. The connections are tenuous and the slightest move aong a wall that is already joined elsewhere disconnects previous joins! Componets joins do not work with curved walls. Very annoying 2D patches are required! MAC OS 10.4.9 (VW 12.5) Thanks for te response.
18. CONTROL POINTS and WRAPPED COMPONENTS

I recently stumbled upon the fact that the first insertion of the door into the wall seems to set the control points. Reducing the door width allows the jamb to orient correctly and not become buried in the wall but this seems backwards and counterntuitive. There ought to be a setting that permits an offset at the jamb(s) similar to the way the door or window can be offset forwards or backwards. Does this exist? Thanks
19. CONTROL POINTS and WRAPPED COMPONENTS

Greetings, am I the only who is has uncooperative door jambs? 1. Why is the components TAB grey in my OBJ. INFO Palette even when a wall with components is selected? 2. The jambs are buried in the wall or standing away from the wall relatve to control points that I cannot manipulate! WHY? How to manipulate the control points? The book suggests these points can be controlled precisely but does not explain how. Many thanks
20. WORKSHEETS!

islandmon, is that the Caribbean islands? I spent seven years in Jamaica and barely escaped with my dignity intact. It's a place that if doesn't kill ya' it'll make you stronger. Re worksheets, I am familiar with using records (ie: checking the box in the OBJ INFO DIALOGUE) though I have not as yet created a custom schedule. When I purchased INFO-EDITOR (two months ago), the advice I received from the VW tech / author threw me for a loop. Further, it 'worked' when I turned ALL the records off! It is not obvious to me and many others how to compose forumlas after weeks of effort of getting 90% of the schedule correct and having two or three columns that won't cooperate. What to do? Export, no! Stay up all night, yes! Place white polys over the aberrant data and handwrite the answers in, maybe! Delete the column(s) and use text instead, maybe? It seems a no brainer to me to list all the basic formulas for each of the standard associations that at a minumum are part of the sample door schedule that VW provides. I have asked VW numerous times about this including RA above and am redireted to the techs (by phone) who give half answers so here I am with the same question. As for explanations, these take care and patience. If you are here I assume you are here to help. I received my MARCH (1992) the year after computers were mandatory so I was not weaned and am entirely self taught. I taught design and VW at the university level for six years in Jamaica and here in Los Angeles so I am well versed in the difficulties in explaining. It's not so hard actually! I am very appreciative when someone takes the time to help. Confused by the opposite.
21. WORKSHEETS!

Petri, are you listening to yourself? Do you realize that your delivery is wholly self-serving and wreaks of someone starving for some sort of recognition, apparently any sort? Stop bothering me is a clear request that matches my needs that you clearly understood, yet you persist. Get the picture? Some advice (for free), try bungy jumping or pierce your nipples, stalk a celebrity or if you are an architect or designer, design something cool and enter it into a competition! This will be undoubtedly be far more rewarding than your current approach that begs for specific questions that match your no doubt mental superiority so that you can further grace us all with your shining genius. On the other hand, maybe you live on the dark side and need pain instead, or maybe you ought to put your Mom on line so we could have a little chat? I'm here for you my friend. Best wishes...
22. WORKSHEETS!

Pete, thank you for this HOW TO and your time. Though I will resist the complex formulas in favor of straightforward PIO links for window and door schedules, my real experience was that 'no reasonable data to create an understandable report,' appeared or no data at all resulted due to an inaccurate formula. Several simple questions.... 1. Is the default (FIELD NAME) in the EDIT REPORT DIALOGUE the default header in the spreadsheet? I am experiencing a mental disconnect between the actual object, the desired data to be displayed and the speadhseet result, and more specifically, WHERE to enter the data to achieve the desired result. Then the formulas kick in and it drives me to drink! 2. Creating a new FIELD NAME enables current data (PIO data for example) to be displayed in a corresponding column (such as a USER FIELD) yes? 3. Have you used INFO EDITOR? Tracking down the corresponding data requires visual recognition from one of the say 100 columns. No search is available and further, the columns use the DATABASE HEADER name rather than a FIELD NAME which if incorrect, finding the corresponding column header is pure guessing to get it right in some instances. INFO EDITOR is excellent, besides this one issue, and works in both directions (updating INFO EDITOR updates object data directly), unlike standard VW spreadhseets, which must be updated at the source and recalculated.
23. WORKSHEETS!

Pete, what is an index label and how do you create one of these creatures? Somehow I think we are inventing words to describe our experiences. By index label, do you mean the identification label that results when you use the ID LABEL Tool, or similarly, a window or door dialogue entry? If so and according to VW techs, this is NOT a RECORD by the way.
24. WORKSHEETS!

Petri, you are not helpful at all. I am NOT REFERRING to WORKSHEET FUNCTIONS that calculate various object(s) data, I am referring to the formulas that generate associations with specific object data such as door width or sill height. You seem motivated to impress us with what you know and to harass rather than contribute. I will get my answers elsewhere. The questions are clear and my comments are sourced. What I do not know is qualified in the very first post. Please stop botherng me.