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Great! All sounds v doable. Will try out today. regards Tom

I have a Mac and a colleague working remotely a PC. It wld be great if he could reference a layer in a drawing on my system. I have searched the forums for tips on this but haven't been successful. Firstly, is this possible without a huge investment in new software ? If answer yes to above, how do I set it up ? Tom

hi I have double line poly settings saved as scripts using the Tools>Custom Tool/Attribue menu. Everytime I double click the saved scripts, VW crashes. Is this problem familiar to anyone out there ... ? Any solutions ? Tom VW 12.5.3 Mac OS X.6

The upgrade to 12.5.3 has done the trick Thank you, Mike M Oz. And CipesDesign.

"Try updating to Vw 12.5.3 - it works fine for me in OS 10.6.4. " Trying it now.

VW 12.5.1 Mac OS 10.6.3

Here are details of my sys: Mac mini aluminum 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Memory: 2 GB Mini DisplayPort To VGA Adapter NVIDIA GeForce 320M: Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce 320M Sony Display: SDM-HS95: Res: 1280 x 1024 @ 60 Hz Pixel Depth:32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

I have gone from Tiger to SnoLep and have exactly the same problems cited in a posting on this list dated 2007. The correspondent writes: "For example, if you draw a single rectangle, circle, polygon or line, all you see are line bits or dots during the click and drag or point-to-point. The object you've drawn wont' be seen until you release the mouse/complete the drawing action. It appears to be some sort of incompatibility with the drawing engine, perhaps QuickDraw, or the like." My question: is there a solution to these problems other than an upgrade? Ptarmigan

maybe the software writers believe walls that aren't vertical are "out of true" p'raps they're discouraging more wayward architectural ideas: maybe there's a good architectural reason for it how can one say it ? canted walls are are NOT a feature of VW. It's a non-feature which you buy when you get the software.

I was thinking of a wash hand basin which is half-inset into a vanity top Part of it protrudes both into along the xy plane and in the yz plane. In the yz plane it protrudes above the object in which it's partially embedded. This is the difficult thing to achieve w a symbol. It's easy to make a 3d symbol but there's the bore of having to shape the surrounding surfaces around it If u put the 3d whb symbol into a wall object, the wall will close over the whb, even if the symbol is set to only partially sit or embed in the wall My rough-and-ready solution is to include the worktop/vanity unit surfaces in the symbol ptarmigan p.s the Duravit 3d material for their sanitary fittings really is v good and I recommend it to listers

Duravit have marvellous 3D downloads of their bathroom fittings They're IGES format and import sweetly into the 3D part of a symbol. Does a.o have any suggestions about how one might deal w inserting inset basin symbols ? The problem is there's no "intelligent" object which will adapt to a half inset 3d basin symbol ... Well, I can't think of it ptarmigan

i'm using the window splay option i note that the splay applies to the head of the window opening i wonder if anyone knows if or how one can confine the splay to all sides of the opening except the head.. probably, it's asking a bit much but if there is a way.. ptarmigan

....err isn't LL'ing useful tho' for example where u wanna generate a quick model to convert to lines to form say window elevations as part of window/door documentation...it's way better using LL'ing for that kind of thing than vuports etc ptarmigan

is there a way to render floor object edges ? where the edges aren't concealed - such as a stair landing - it wld be helpful to render them ptarmig

does a.o have a neat process for rendering the "centre" of a floor obj used as a flat roof, whose edges are exposed and would be best rendered as say timber to represent a fascia...? or any other suggestions about exploiting VW capa-bilities for flat roofs.. ptarmigan

Having 3d shaped the wall (wall peaks etc) you obviously have to think about the plan representation of the wall. VW will continue to show the wall shaped or not shaped in plan. So you have to mask it. That's what I did it and that's fine. Ptarmigan

You are so right!! wasn't wall peaks one of the first tutorials one did to make a gable wall. That's a long, long time ago, already! Good grief, I had clean forgotten about it. How nice to remember something i can do Thank you Pat

the door option doesn't work Peter, coz you end up w a sliver of wall at the edge: see picture this is why we need anti-matter in VW

I use IM. I don't why you're having the probs described. I found following the manual worked for me. IM does not make it easy to print out an issue. So far as I have been able to tell, you have to use IM via the file menu rather than the IP, to cause IM to create the record info which could be used to create a report of an issue. There was a long too-and-fro a month or so ago about IM and its shortcomings. Netmetschek do not accept that there are shortcomings w IM. For me, the chief one is that you cannot print out a list of all drawings issued from a project file. Well, there's no easy way, so far as I can tell. Netmetschek's line on the matter may be linked to their awareness of workflow. IM, as implemented, is fool-proof, more or less. A fuller capability might make it much less easy to use. Generally, IM is helpful because it makes the discipline of record keeping easier.

thanks i think it's true that the inserted symbol can only form the end or edge of a wall convincingly if it's actually as thick or thicker than the wall it's in where the wall is thicker than the inserted symbol, and the symbol is right up against the edge of the wall, there's paper thin residue of the wall. perhaps I can beat this by creating a symbol which is actually thicker but partially invisible. ptarmigan

iboymatt, I've played around a bit w symbols to check out use of loci to create openings in 2 and 3d The 2d part seems to work. Create a symbol formed of just 2d loci, separated by a distance of x, then place this symbol in a wall, and you get a gap in plan view of the wall of x. The 3d part doesn't seem to work. Add 3d loci to the 2d symbol, and locate them how you will, does not seem to generate a 3d opening to match. I think what u'r suggesting is making a symbol incorporating the 3d assembly which I want to place, and placing it so its edges are right up against the edge of the receiving wall. In essence, the placed symbol's edge or edges would be come the edge of the wall. That I can grasp; and mucking about w 3d symbol placement shows me I can place them so their edges are aligned 'exactly' w one of the edges of a free-standing, staight wall. The corner of the symbol, in this instance, more or less replaces the wall edge. The replacement isn't perfectly rendered in 3d, but it'll do for me for modelling porpoises. Let me know any other finesses which you may have up your sleeve. thanks Ptarmigan

iboymatt: thanks for your reply I don't get all that you're saying, so I'm going to play for a bit using the clues wh you've given. I'll report back in a few hours. best ptarmigan

It would be helpful if one could make a hole in a wall which did not have edges on both sides This is not w reference to corner windows but stacking different walls on same layer I raise this knowing the corner window discussion has been had many times. I think making an opening - a genuine hole - wh one could fill w another wall (a mixture of walls) wld darned helpful I'm modelling a wall w a clerestorey window. Below that window, a small flat roof abuts the wall. Below that abutment is a different kind of wall. I'd like to annihilate the wall in which the clerestorey is set below the abutment w the flat roof and fill it w another kind of wall - one which is internal on both sides. To be frank, this kind of puzzle really slows me down and kinda gets me over-involved in designing for VW albeit obliquely. This is exactly when VW inhibits design for me. It lacks flexibility. ptarmigan

not a complaint or question just to say: it's a small, daily pleasure snipping lines away w the trim tool it's like pruning, snip and it's done snip, snip, snip ptarmigan

command-tab disappears palettes in Illustrator is there an equiv hide command for ALL palettes for VW ? or is this another VS thing requiring homework ? ptarmigan