Wall colour by pop up menu in General Discussion Posted May 13 Pat and Andy, Thanks for going further with this. By adding 'symbol' to the visualization criteria (and removing wall and solids as they are not necessary) and making sure that objects inside the symbol do not have the record format attached (it is attached at the symbol level), data visualization does indeed work! I think this may be enough for what I need at the moment. Have more granular control over objects inside the system at some point would be great. Pat, I am curious about the file you mentioned with your worksheet but I did not see it attached. Can you repost?