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  1. Hey Charles, Just a little post to let you know that I've done the script just as you said and it works really well!!! I'm jumping with excitement and joy !!! :-) HAPPY! Thank you again, Li Mei
  2. Thank you for the reply Islandmond, I'm not sure that I have duplicated loci... The same set of loci works when there are very few classes but not when I have more classes (I just create the classes but not any additionnal loci or any other object)... so i though it had to do with classes. Is there a max. number of classes allowed when you want to use DTM? I solved my problem for the moment by generating the DTM appart in a file with very few classes and then bring the file in reference. It the a good way?
  3. Hi Robert ! Thank you for your reply. We bought directly from you this june. Although we're located in Belgium, nor the belgian or even the french translation suited our needs for various reason. Most essential was that everybody is not french speaking (we've got french, dutch, german, chinese) all projects are not in Belgium and we want to be international. So english (as for many other things we do) is a good base. Then I would be happy to customize it, essentially for classes names and layers name,Task manager use and WGR. Re your 1. What do you mean by auto-classing? I agree with the idea of simplicity. Yet it seems to me that right now, taking the soft as it is, it seems important (for us beginners at least) to be able not to make wrong settings while working : one needs to set the right layer, right classes, right organisation (active only/gray/show/snap for classes and for layers), right active/inactive setting for both classes and layers... That makes a hell a lot of combinations... and ii is difficult when the person is not used to the program. One always miss something. This is why I agreed verymuch with the lesson in the first learning CD advising to use the Task Manager. And this is why I am so frustrated not to be able to make it work... Actually, DO YOU or DO YOU NOT advise to use the task manager? RE your 2. - Say I have a file with 8 referenced layers from 8 different files. 1 file is for the site (DTM model), the 7 others for the floors. - In all layers I create objects by using their class attribues. - In my final file, I reference all the layers to obtain a 3D model. I create a model view in a local layer with all the layers linked. - then I want to use RW in that final file to render my model. So I assign texture to each classes : DTM triangle class is assigned a grass texture with an jpg image. Walls classes are assign with a jpg image of bricks... and so on. - Now the problem is that I cannot map the textures on e.g. the wall because my walls (that are on the referenced layers) are locked. So I cannot go in the Render tab and use the "mapping". Therefore the jpg never match the object and the rendering is very bad. - The only way I've found to do is to assign the texture to the object in the original file. Then it appears correctly mapped in the client file. The problem is that if I have to do so : 1) it is a lot of work as I have to do it per objects in all the referenced files. 2) That ruins the whole concept of the class attribute by creation. re your 3. No I don't (see the name of the personal views). Well... Infact, it is more complex. I dont see it in the list till I edit the task manager. Then it appears in the list. At that point I can select it, but of course I cannot edit any tasks as there are none for that view. However I can click on "creates" but as soon as I do that, the view disappears. sometimes it crashes the program, sometimes it does nothing. But anyway, after that the TM is no longer usable (it crashes or do various bizare things).If I edit the .txt file I realise that it has written some data randomly apparently across different fields. What is the problem? do you think it is in relation with the bizar phenomenon (that I discribed in my point 3)of old presentation layers that appears after running "standard naming"? ? Or what would be the reason of that one? I hope you can help me. Waiting for your reply. Thank you. Li Mei
  4. WAOUHW! Super! As we say here in Brussels! That's great. I'm going to try right now. THANK YOU so much !!! Li Mei
  5. Hi Robert, That's more or less the way I try to use it, except that teh "older way of using the program does not apply at all". Here are some info specific to us : 1. we're starting the use of vector works with V.11.5. I'm trying to set on a brand new drawing system for the office from scratch. Every body here is quite young (between 22 and 35, pretty ok with almost all kind of softs but new to VW. We Just bought 3 seats of Architect with RW and 1 seat of Landmark with RW the Idea was to install a whole office standard base on the use of VW +C4D. 2. As the idea was to built the whole organisation of the office on new (and GOOD)basis, I studied very carefully all the docs (except the Vector script part that I've only started)and did all the learning CD's (VW1 VW2, Arch, Land, RW). I'm not convinced that the reality matches the advertisement for the followings : 3. I decided to use workgroup referencing, drawing each floor on separate layers and then referencing them in one presentation file for presentation in sheets layers. despite the fact that i found sheets heavy to manipulate (updating 3D takes time, couldn't put 3 very complex 3D section of a landscape on the same sheet as the computer could only render 2 out of 3(It's P4, 3.2G with 1024MB RAM!!!). Workgroup referencing is also not very flexible with the use of render work as the texture cannot be mapped. It shoud be mapped once in the final files but his doesn't work as hte object are locked. So one have to apply textures in each files... without applying then in the class attribute as those are override by the setting in the final file. this ruins the whole ideao of the classes attributes. 3. I used Standard naming to match our office standards. And that's were it started to bug (I didn't diminish the numbers of classes or anything I only translated some names into french as our office is international french, german, belgian and chinese). The Standard naming works for resetting the names of layers and classes, but when you run create standard viewport after it also creates a set of layers that seems to correspond to old versions of VW (presentation layers). Those layers are not created when standard naming is not used. 3. Standard naming also bugs with the task manager which then mixes sheet names and saved view names. My conclusion is that it comes from this creation of presentation sheet layers in the design layers tab. So I've tried to correct the problem manually by editing the task.txt file. it works only partially as Task Manager doesn't seem very adapted for workgroup referencing, which is a pity as I think the potential of TM is real for group working, not for someone working on a file with all his drawings... I also find the database pretty obscure to use. It took me a while to figure it out. The edition didn't work from within VW (strange things occured including computer crashes...). I had to open it with Excel. 4. It is very difficult to avoid people creating and saving their own saved view (with personal, random names)... This also confuses the Task Manager, especially if someone deleted a saved view... 5. If you run the Task Manager while in a sheet layers, then it lists tasks that let you only chose to do thing on the sheet layers even once you're back in a design layers... ... Very long list you see. And there is much more. I keep telling myself that I need to give up this stupid tool as it works so badly. However, time and again I do come back to it as it would be such a great idea if it could work properly! I'm not sure about what i'm going to do next. I've got the opportunity to set up a clean system for the office without problem of legacy. yet lot of the new tools (TM, Standard naming,class attribtes DTM model) seems to have problems (not working properly, crashing...)and I do not know (have) the old tools with my version. VERY frustrating!!! Lot of object from the palette also seems mixed up with library plug in symbols... not very clear for me. IN FACT, I think that the problem of VW is that its whole logic is not yet adapted to workgroup use. it works very well (I think, I haven't checked) for stand alone. It messes up when it comes to people working together on big projects... I'm coming from autocad background and I'm convinced of the potential of VW, but I think those needs to be improved. And I don't think it is a good idea to have tools that are so hybrid (mix of old and new versions...) So it seems that my question is much larger than the Task manager. Especially when you think "workgroup". The question is more : How to set up a good workgroup working system with VW11.5. Lot of the advertsed tools seem not coherent in their use when it comes to sharing files and info. This also goes back to my question of updating classes for referenced files and sharing task manager. It is all about allowing "COHERENCE" between users. Setting Standards... updating them and so on... Waiting for your reply, Li Mei
  6. Good Afternoon ! I've posted a question in the general discussion regarding how to updates classes, here was the post : "Help! I've spent the whole day (and night) trying to find a way to update classes : We're working with workgroup reference and many files created from the same template. We use class style at creation so to have a coherent presentation throughout the files. Quite of few classes have been change in the Template (color, line width and pattern) although their names remain unchanged... Is it possible to update the classes of all the files to match the template's classes new color and other attributes? I can't imagine to do it manually for each of the files...!!!" Bruce Ferguson, from Nemetschek, said that this is not yet possible but is considered for a future version of VW. In the meantime I was looking fo some idea that would help, Raymond advised me to write a script so as not to do it manually for each file. I'm new to everything. So this is why I'm posting here... Could you give me your advise on how you'd start that script, what to keep in mind, and what not to do? Thank you very much. Best, LiMei
  7. Thanks Raymond, I'll try the VectorScript section.
  8. OOHH :-(... No other way in the meantime? Thanks anyway for replying.
  9. Ok. This time I give up. The Task manager doesn't work at all. I was so happy it sounded just what we needed. But It's just impossible to use. Less to customize !!! i've tried editing it manually, and with a table... It just doesn't work!!!. Doesnt let you set the visibility of classes and layers.. jumps to other view. Let you only activate sheets... Well either this tool is a big bug... or there's something really basic I've missed! Please help me I'm dead with frustration !
  10. Hi Delmer, I've got Advanced render. Up till now I haven't got something really impressive to show. I'll need to have it by the end of next week though. I'll post it ASAP. As for now, I regret a little to have choosen Advanced render, as It seems that the basic package would have suffice my needs. If I had to rebuy it, I'd have Sketch and Toon instead or Adv.Render... Best Li Mei (that's my first name means the standing rose... :-))
  11. Help! I've spent the whole day (and night) trying to find a way to update classes : We're working with workgroup reference and many files created from the same template. We use class style at creation so to have a coherent presentation throughout the files. Quite of few classes have been change in the Template (color, line width and pattern) although their names remain unchanged... Is it possible to update the classes of all the files to match the template's classes new color and other attributes? I can't imagine to do it manually for each of the files...!!! Lot of thanks to all of you.
  12. Hi! i've been using VW11.5 Architect and Landmark for only 2 week (though very intensively : I try to learn as much as possible as quick as possible -our office (we're a very young office) has bought the programs and i'm the one supposed to explain to the others-just all as new as me- how we should use it)... I'm highly enthousiastic about the DTM Site Modeling tools but I experience some difficulties... - As Immaterial in another topic I receive 20,2 errors, but also 20,1... I can't figure out what it means... I work with 3D loci imported from Autocad. When I try to generate the 3D Model, Ive got the error msg whenever I've got more than 4 classes... otherwise, the DTM is generated... Does that make sense? What did I do wrong? I do not erase points and It's quite systematic : If I copy paste the 3D loci in an empty file (empty but with classes coming from a template) I've got an 20,1 or 20,2 error. If I copy paste the same 3D loci in another also empty file without classes (only the none and the dimension classes) it works... Why? - Then I've got Landmark on one machine and Architect on the other... Is it more advisable to generate the DTM on Landmark rather than Architect or is it the same? Thanks a lot, Li Mei
  13. Hey Guys, Back am I after a week of real hard Struggling. Just may be to share some of my conclusion, as it seems that you've been exchanging a lot, meanwhile I was sorting out my program set up problem... Well, i finally manage to do some quite nice exchange. I happen to have the latest version of both program. Up till now, I do have quite a lot of instability problem from VW11.5... I don't know if that more than usual. My program crashes regularly while it comes to : generate DTM models, exporting big files... Other whise I'm very happy, although still needs to learn a LOT!!! I'm working hard on it. I'm really happy about the DTM modeling from VW Architect, Although it bugs... doesnt work when there are more than a few classes... mixes models... and so on... Yet it still manages to produce HUGE impressive 3D sites. I've exported those in C4D and mapped the 'picture taken by the satellite' on the site (how do you say that in english???)and it is just amazing. I don't think Renderwork would ever do that in a near future. So My opinion is that it is usefull to have multi program. Now only for few things. I think C4D is good for 1 or 2 rendering per project (to help some client that have real difficulties visualizing the project from drawings, and to convince authorities as here in Belgium, we do need to spend some energy convicing the administration...) THEN I'm know studying how to do quick perspective and Sketches with Renderworks, I think that will be more efficient for all the quick views and atmosphere rendering... I don't know whether my opinion really can help though as I'm only 2 weeks experienced. Yet I've always been multi soft... I'm coming from an Autocad/3Dmax education... All the best Li Mei
  14. Hi everyone ! Does anybody knows how to share with other users of a network the tasks from the task manager? The thing is that i've customized the task from my task manager (added some tasks, deleted others...) now i'd like to share it with other users on our network... don't find how to do that... Any idea? Thanks. Li Mei
  15. Hi Alan, Seems that VW11.5 is instable... Patches have been released... I'm not convinces that it makes my program more stable... May be I still haven't installed it correctly... I've got VW11.5. I'll let you know if I find any better way to improve that problem... As for now, I just keep file sizes as reasonable s possible (I do use a lot of 3D)... Best
  16. Hey all! So here it is : There are 3patches on maxon.net one for finding R9 (otherwise the plugin installer cannot install) one for VW11 one for VW11.5. I've just downloaded and istalled. IT WORKS!!! VERY HAPPY :-)? Still crashing though...
  17. Hey Alan, Ray ! Thank you for your replies. I'm new to both programs as you see. And I just discovered, like 30min ago that my problem is due to the fact that VW11.5 and C4D are no longer compatible !!! (the last comptatible release is VW11) I must say this is hard news for me as I just invested (more than I can afford) in those two programs... and I dont know what to do now... Is there anything such as a retrograde option (i'm also experimenting heavy instability problems as the computer keeps on crashing!!!)? Thank you also for the forum for C4D I'll check it. Best. Li Mei
  18. Hi, I'm a brand new user so i must apologize if my question sounds idiot... HERE IT IS : - I'm trying to install the vectorwork/C4D exchange plugin. I've launch the installer (from maxon) it all went fine for C4D. I then have 3 files :.dll .dll and .RSR. I'm instructed to copy them in the VW plugin forlder, so i did it in C:/program files/vw/plug-ins. - Then i'm suppose to edit my workspade and add the new command that should appear in the left part of the workspace editor under import/export... I did it but nothing's there... -Does anybody know if I'm suppose to install the files in some other way (i've hard copied them with copy past in the window's explorer)??? Thanks a lot.
  19. Hi, I'm a brand new user so i must apologize if my question sounds idiot (and I'm not sure this is the correct discussion area so I'm also posting this msg on the installer section)... HERE IT IS : - I'm trying to install the VW/C4D exchange plugin. - I've launch the installer (from maxon) it all went fine for C4D. I then have 3 files :.dll .dll and .RSR. I'm instructed to copy them in the VW plugin forlder, so i did it in C:/program files/vw/plug-ins. Then i'm suppose to edit my workspade and add the new command that should appear in the left part of the workspace editor under import/export... I do it but nothing's there... Does anybody know if I'm suppose to install the file in so other way (i've hard copied them with copy past in the window's explorer)??? Thanks a lot.
  20. Hep Thanks all... finally found the problem: Stupid mistake from us in entering serial numbers in fact... kept on messing the architecture serial with the landmark. So the landmark had the architect workspace and the architect had the landmark workspace and none worked...
  21. I'm running Win2000 (the one that works) another win2000 (doesn't work) and win xp (doesn't work)... I've restarted it many time. And I don't think I added Plug-ins, it comes all directly from the VW11.5.0 installer. I'm a brand new user...
  22. Hi I cannot use the tools that are related to VA SET PROJECTS PREFS: For example, if I try to use the wall tool, I've got a msg saying "Wall type tool (straight) could not be selected check to make sure it is in your "plug-ins" directory". I've got 3 Architects Licences. 1 works and the two others not. i've copied all the plugins of the one that works on the other. The plugin still can't be found. Also on the computer with the license that works, i can access FILE > PREFERENCES > VA SET PROJECTS PREFS Whereas on the two others computer those are in grey saying that VA Set Proj Prefs.qtr not found. I've check the *.qtr files on the different computers, they're all the same... What should I do? I think I've installed the 3 computers exactly the same way...
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