Monique Freese

Thanks Ross Firstly, yes I agree, most projects will require a survey done and that takes the responsibility out of our hands hence getting Babbage out. We needed the minimum F.F.L. set on site so asked if he could take some levels around the building platform. Thanks for your message, great info in there for me to work through. Even when I don't include the spot levels the generated model contours are still not the same as my source information so is causing no end of confusion. The site is basically flat I but wanted to still set up a 3D model view for the client to have a look including a sun study. I have since set up an imaginary site with a steeper gradient to see if I could figure out the levels (which I obviously haven't as yet). I still need to learn about the ins and outs of site modelling so ISSUE 2 is a bit out of my depth at present as I have only just started using the program. I understand the concept of stories and why we use them but still don't understand why we cant use a datum or set point where the site model can relate to the finished floor level from the design layer. I am using stories and set my proposed F.F.L to the R.L of 3.72, which is the minimum requirement from the flood report, I can't see why this would not work with the contours set on the site model. I can basically grasp that the site model does not have an elevation as such(???) but need to understand how these CAN work together. I have now become a Pro Member so I can access Jonathan's teachings and have a site modeling webinar due next week so hopefully I will have more understanding after this. Thanks for your help Mon

Thanks I will have a look at the section viewport as an option. Mon

Just looked at my GIS Council source data and the contour I have circled is supposed to be there it must have picked up the line somehow from the imported layer when I was tracing???

I still do not understand what is happening or how everything works mainly around setting the Z values or datum/elevation levels. I have posted another question on the forum with more information. Thanks so much for your input thus far. M

Hi Yes I am using a 2D rectangle when attempting to crop the design layer view. Ta Mon

Hello ISSUE ONE I have input my survey info and ensured the contour lines are recognized as 3D polys, all the levels associated with each contour line is correct. The site does not have much fall, pretty much dead flat but I would like to show the basic contours on my site plan. I have used the contours from the Council GIS maps as source data and traced them, and also spot levels supplied by the surveyor - it would be great if the contours were uniformly rising as they would be easier for the program to create the model, but that is not the case. I created the site model and in 2D the contours are all skewed. I would ideally like it to present the same as the GIS layout. ISSUE TWO I can't seem to work out how to set the datum or elevation height on my site model so it corresponds to my house levels. I understand that Z is my height value and I have input the correct contour values and design layer elevational values for the building via stories, how do I get everything to relate to the site model? I have the site model on its own design layer and set the design layer elevation to 0, is this correct? What does the design layer elevation actually relate to? The lowest contour I have input is 2.00m and the highest 3.0m as per the GIS map and my house floor level (supported on poles) is 3.72m. On the site model settings under general the following: In the object info under site model the Geo Lowest Z is set to 2000 ..... is this correct? ISSUE THREE When in flyover mode looking at the following: 1. What do the red lines represent? - lowest and highest contour? 2. I have the skirt mode on so what defines the depth of the skirt? - the lowest contour or the datum set at 0 on the site model general settings..... I have just gone into the recreate from source data and have found this: The portion of contour I have circled is not supposed to be there? The Z values are incorrect, aren't they supposed to relate the the contour values I have input?? PLEASE HELP!!

Hello all I am trying to set up an elevations drawing sheet for my proposed house. I activate the desired design layers of my proposed house and place in an orthogonal view showing the north west elevation. I would like to crop the view so the viewport will only take the information I choose. I have watched instructional videos and read the help section. The viewport dialogue box comes up immediately but not the alert box* asking if I wish to use the cropped area as the viewport. If I continue and fill in the info in the viewport dialogue box and click ok it moves the hole view onto my elevation sheet, not the cropped view. *VECTERWORKS HELP An alert dialog box asks whether the object should be used as the viewport’s crop. Click Yes (also select Always do the selected action to always use a selected 2D object as a crop object when creating viewports). This alert box does not come up on my screen. What am I missing? Thanks Mon

It is turned on ........ sorry this all a bit new to me still. I thought the graphic attributes on the site model settings would be the classes for the contours. Also now realising how all the RL's relate to the ground plane so have to now ensure everything is set correctly so the site model is in the correct place on the Z plane.

Have found the class under SITE-Contours

The site model is on the NONE class

The graphic properties come up from the site model settings box with all the different colours and line weights for contour major and minor but there does not appear to be a class for them showing in the classes tab in the organization palette.....

Hello me again Tom lol!!!! 😖 I am now working on the site model to hopefully produce a 2D contour plan and then position the proposed house (have used stories and story levels for all design layers etc) there by seeing it when doing a flyover. I have created 2D polygon lines for the contours and converted to 3D and spot levels via the stake tool (first attachment). I have then selected everything and asked for a site model to be produced. The result shows me, in plan mode, the boundary my site property boundary line but no 2D contours with notes. I have attached the settings I have chosen and the result in 2D plan mode and top Orth Open GL mode, in the latter you can see it has processed the info ok but not showing me any contour lines. When rendering in GL it looks really cool!!! I assumed the relative level of the ground would relate the the proposed finished floor level but it does not appear to be the case, how can I ensure the are relating to each other. The site model appears to relate tot the ground plane (the blue grid)??? I have changed the site model Z position so it looks semi correct but need to figure it out, is it the elevation datum on the site model settings? Ok that's it for now. Thanks Mon

Yes Tom you are AMAZING and thank you so much for helping me. I figured out the following was causing the issues yesterday: 1. My laptop was playing up and not performing basic functions but gave no indication it was struggling so the actions I asked for were not being performed in a timely manner. So rebooted the laptop and HEY PRESTO things started working as they should. So after filling in the info and tapping OK I was able to click for start and end indicating the orientation of the joists. YIPPEE!! 2. When I looked at the joist properties I had ticked the SOLID option because I assumed it would then draw me a solid looking piece of timber in 2D plan view and 3D perspective , but alas no, only in 3D. I changed it to each of the settings so I could see what happened and NONE was the best option for what I wanted. 3. The batteries are starting to fail in my wireless keyboard so on occasion nothing was happening when I tapped a key ..... but strangely since I removed and reinserted the batteries there have been no further issues. Who would have thought all these would happen at the same time .... SIGH!!

Ok have found where it says the orientation of the joists but dont seem to get the dialogue box come up

Hello I am trying to draw a floor framing plan and after watching multiple tutorials have chosen to use the AEC-framing option. I have indicated the perimeter of the floor and completed all the info required but there does not seem to be a question asking the direction of the floor joists? the program keeps drawing them along my building not across as I would like? Also in plan view the joists appear as a single line with a T end, I thought they would show as solid with the pen thickness around the perimeter and the colour I have chosen in the fill. Thanks Mon