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Why are doors (door width) determined by the leaf size and windows by overall size in VW? They both have jambs. In my part of the Universe both doors and windows are determined by the overall size, jambs included. Another Q: How do I create a door leaf with a filled panel in the lower half and glazing with 1 vertical and 1 horizontal mullion in the upper half?

Monkey, As Ray says, it shouldn't crash. I have basically the same hard- and software setup as you and can't remember more than a couple of crashes for the last 4-5 years. My memory is bad though. Have you updated all SP and OS? Do you have any free space on your HD? Is your graphic card ok? - 256Mb VRAM is recommended. On the other hand I have had a nightmare with around 12bugs I reported this fall. About 7 or 8 of them turned out to be real, now listed bugs, the other ones just ...well, stupid me... So bugs, yes far too many in VW!

No wonder you are annoyed. Meanwhile I suggest you install an second monitor on the PC where your epileptic friend works (why not on all). Place the OIP on the other screen. Monitors are cheap nowadays and the extra screen is a blessing in many other ways. All rarely used palettes, e-mail, internet browser etc are at hand, without interfering with your drawing.

The general idea is to use different design layers for different base heights (z). Combined with ∆z set for each layer it automatically gives you a building of stacked floor plans. You may use different design layers with the same z setting to differentiate furnishing from walls etc. If you have objects going through several floors, like shafts, either draw them on the lowest layer (lowest z value) and determine the objects' own z height position to fit into the building - or - create a new layer for each of these objects and set the z height of the layer, so it fits where you want it. Remember all objects' z value is relative to the Z-level of the layer it is drawn in. If you move it from one layer to another it might jump way off.

Ha! - that's a good one - and a true one. Now I'm ashamed on behalf of all Swedes. But on the other hand a tip from a genius to Wildernessbob: Just print "not" in front of the "UP" - an there you have your down arrow! And if you really mean "up" - make sure there is no missunderstanding. Print "indeed" after "UP".

I'm not sure I get it right. You say you rotate the project in plan - if so, the stairs should be in 2D projection. Have you tried any of the standard views others than top view?

Of course it's more sensible to meet different standards. Arrows up or down is not really the issue as I see it. The question is whether we should make good use of the internet, that shrunk the world drastically. We are closer to eachother than ever before and the possibility to work in overseas projects could be immense. And we can do so over the internet. But when we do we need common standards as much as possible. I have friends in Canada doing projects in Europe and I have made a couple of jobs in both US and Canada myself. The more we speak the same language, use the same symbols and drawing methods, the more we avoid complications. To get there we need to pinpoint the differences, discuss them, evaluate them and let the fittest survive as an international standard. It's us - no government or authority, that should set these standards. We (Europe) have a lot to learn from non- european countries' way of doing things, but also some contributions to make. The biggest obstacle, despite cad-conversion, is still the imperial unit system, obsolete in most of the world by now. The US is seen as static, conservative and progress hostile by most europeans, even though news mostly come from there and rapidly are adopted by us. So, as often, this view doesn't make sense. But with these inches and feet it makes sense. You, forum members, can make a difference here. So, the bottom line is: let's be openminded, see what's out there on the internet and learn from it. Set new standards in the Panta Rhei (everything flows) philosophy spirit - nothing is meant to be forever. Not even stupid 60 minute hours and 60 seconds minutes, - they all pass by. As for the landslide...we are actually just talking about an arrow. I've made my speach and may have been abusive and made fun of the topic- please all sensible forum members, forgive me. I will now pray for the international adoption of the european stair arrow standard. God (whichever - even Pat), you can make it happen! Halleluja!

Nicely put again Petri. As always, amusing posts. Some topic readers might thank you for clarifying my thoughts, - nevertheless it might be MY business to express my own thoughts. It's a question of who rules whom. For that matter the whole world should rejoice that we don't rule the world, at least I do. It would be such a boring place....I'd rather have you to do it. At least it would be a laugh...You could be my king (I'd love a new one) and Pat my God. Eventually my life will have a meaning. Why don't we all start a new religion by the way: "VectorWorship" where the suicidal practice of 3D modelling entitles you to 17 virgins - sorry, 17 vectors - in Heaven? ....maybe I got a little off tracks.... Wes, how do you draw escalators? They go both up and down depending on the switch position. Do you write "business hours: UP" and "after closing hours: DN"? We use the arrow to show the high point of a stair. Consequently also the high point of an escalator. No need then to tell which way it goes, because it's obvious.

I feel I need to appologize on behalf of roughly 4'999'999 europeans. The shown arrogance reflects his view not ours in general. But yes he's right, by european standards stairs are shown with up arrows only which simplifies things. Metric units are also simple, once you start using them. But why on Earth do we all still use hours, minutes and seconds then? And americans with a.m. and p.m. on top of it? We'll get to something better - metric time - in due time - even in Finland, whoever knows where that is.

http://www.nemetschek.net/downloads/fundamentals/2009/2009SP1_Notes.php ...you're welcome

OK Pat, do you have any suggestion how to export? In Acad my two design layers are both in the same model space. Each one has its own layer, so by turning them off and on they can handle it, but is there a clever way to do it?

When I dwg-export a sheet layer with viewports from two different design layers - am I not supposed to get two separate dwg files when the "export layers as separate files"box is checked?

I'd like to see additional setting options in roof creation tool. In Sweden building codes statue building heights from three main parameters: 1. A maximum ridge height 2. A maximum exterior bearing height. 3. The roof pitch. Eve heights or overhangs don't matter. Interior bearings don't matter. So my wish is obviously to be able to set pts 1 and 2 and to have the possibility not only to give them a value but also to set them as maximum values. I.e either I determine the ridge height or I just set a max value that may not be exceeded.

To be perfectly honest Bill the idea came to me when I read Marks topic. Hadn't thought of it either before. Now we just need the viewports to be active too, then we really have a powerfull tool.

I've attched a file with this.

Add som more info to your profile. What version of VW are you on? Different versions of VW along with different CPU lead to different answers. No info often leads to no answer. Some call it a bragging line, but it's actually just useful information.

I suggest you keep the staircase in it's own design layer (A). Then change the standard view (layers unstacked) to left, front or right. You will see the staircase from selected side. Create a viewport (VP) of the staircase (in sideview) in a new design layer (B). Move the VP a bit so it stands clear from the original object. Go back to layer A. Set view back to top/plan view. Now you have different views in A and B. Whatever change you do in A will bee shown in B. You can create one VP from each side and line them all up. Eventually you may likewise create a VP placed in a sheet layer for presentation purpose. Try doing it in a blank document first, so you get the idea. In an existing file too many settings may disturb you and lead to unrelated problems.

Also check this out: http://techboard.vectorworks.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=112519#Post112519

Unfamiliar with powercad but Selecting by dragging: Press the alt key while selecting with the cursor. All objects touched will be selected. The move by points tool is new in 2008. See in VWhelp menu for more details. The tool is by default in the far right end of the basic tools palette.

Boys....nanana...stop fighting.... Some kids like to turn things off with the start button, others don't.

Surely? Nothing is sure any more. It's all just a foggy nightmare at times. There is no way to tell if one is an absolute idiot or if it's just another glitch in 2009. It lightens up my day a bit to hear you have this problem - then I'm not alone! It is not exactly what I experience, but very similar. Doors and window id tags rotate at wonky angles in the sheet VP. I'm having a long list of bugs reported and am having some mail and file exchange with NNA engineers on these. Hopefully it will result in bug fixes. At all times I suggest you to report glitches to NNA at: bugsubmit@nemetschek.net The more reports, the clearer the image might become to NNA and the better the outcome for us.

MW 2009 opens files back to VW7. MiniCad6 is no longer supported. A good thing I never converted all files to 12.5 as I planned to but never had time for. As for these european versions. I'd be glad to find a dual langauge version english/swedish. Just switch from one to another by a key-stroke. Having english as the default language helps me a lot whenever I need help on the forum. Otherwise I would have to guess what tools/menues etc are called all the time. It's annoying thoug with worksheets with headers in english. Even better: a multilingual version with all major langauages including my lovely language of course, in a scrolldown menu.

You're right Glenn, your description is correct and this must be a bug, otherwise there would not be any data bar on rectangles and ovals. When detecting bugs you (we all) should report it a.s.a.p. to NNA by e-mail: bugsubmit@nemetschek.net All help to detect bugs is appreciated and necessary if we want them fixed. I will report this one.

The group should move along if it's really selected, unless it's in another layer and layer views is not set to "modify others" or the group is locked.

A symbol is holy ground - no reshape or stretch tool will have any effect on it unless you do it from inside the symbol, i.e you edit the smbol itself. You can convert it to a group, then ungroup it and it will be stretchable, but that's no way to go. It's basicly the idea of symbols. They're protected from accidental editing. Groups are similar, but stretchable. Not with the 2Dreshape tool though. The 2D reshape tool is a tool used to move what you mark inside the fence as if it were a temporary group. All nodes move together relative what's outside the fence (only selected nodes will move though) and maintaines all connections to outside nodes. If a group is not completely within the fence it will not be selected automatically and you must select it manually. The real strech tool is the basic cursor set to stretch mode in the upper left corner of the window (arrow lines for single or multiple objects) This will stretch groups too.