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  1. If I create a window 'style' (hate that word, but hey...) and then start using it, but then forget to set the default class for that window type, there is no way to change the default class (that I can detect) other than converting the styled window to 'unstyled' setting the default class for the unstyled window and recreating the style. Annoyingly when I do, and I name the recreated style as per the original, it does not 'replace' the original. It gives no message and just creates one called 'Window Style'. It ought to, for consistency's sake, ask if you want to replace the existing window style.
  2. Seems Windoor cannot be acquired by UK users either. I am sure Julian will explain why.
  3. When we upgrade Vectorworks, or even run interim service pack updates, it would be extremely useful if the files installed had some sort of version and revision history. For example, the xml files that contain Pantone colour palettes... Do these ever change? If they do how do we know what has changed? In practice and even using your own Titleblock Manager you (should) allow for a revision history of even the most trivial document and are encouraged to highlight those changes somehow. In larger offices, and in any managed system where we make use of the workgroup and project folder functionality, we centralise content such as class libraries, file templates, but also colour palettes, and this content often includes resources produced and installed by Vectorworks. Would be useful if we knew which files need to be updated and a versioning system would be hugely beneficial for larger managed systems. FYI, the class libraries I am issuing for BS1192/ISO19650 compatibility will include revision history. Thanks.
  4. Did you upgrade the 2018 license to 2021, or is it an entirely separate license?
  5. Hello and Season's Greetings Following on from the 'AEC UK CAD Standards' class libraries that have been shipping with Vectorworks in the UK since 2016, we are pleased to announce that our BS1192/ISO19650 compatible class libraries are now available on request, and are free of charge for you to use on your Vectorworks CAD and BIM projects. The latest libraries use the 'official' BS1192 convention, which incorporates the underscore, rather than the AEC 'convention' of using only hyphens. We have built class libraries using Uniclass 2015 tables for: EF (Elements and Functions) for early stage and LOD 1 and 2 models Ss (Systems) for Construction Drawings and LOD 3 and 4 models Pr (Products) for Detailing and Zz for Annotation and non-element specific Linework A class library for Architectural classes, using BS1192 Uniclass 2015 table EF v1.7, released October 2020, is attached for your review and comment. You will need Vectorworks 2021 to open this file. We will issue updates as and when Uniclass 2015 is revised by the NBS team. Due to the sheer number of classes available, Tables Ss and Pr will be broken down and issued as separate 'Group/Sub-Group', 'Group/Sub-Group/Section', and 'Group/Sub-Group/Section/Object' libraries and all will exclude any class whose name exceeds 63 characters. If you need a class we have omitted we are happy to generate them for you. If you request them from us, we can then add them to the libraries we issue in future. Included in each Library will be a set of filters to help you navigate the classes. We are also developing a plugin to help you find the right class easier too although reference should always be made to the Uniclass 2015 website here https://www.thenbs.com/our-tools/uniclass-2015. Irrespective, we encourage you to asset tag your model to include the full and specific Uniclass 2015 reference. The release of the class libraries is the first phase of our suite of 'UK BIM Framework' compatible files. We will be putting together class libraries for an AEC UK CAD Standard derivation of ISO13567 and mapping tables to convert from our BS1192 classes to ISO13567; as well as from VW auto-classing and AIA classes to BS1192, and from the previously issued AEC UK classes. For our existing clients we have already started to develop mapping tables and scripts to convert their current CAD Standards to Industry Standards. If you would like us to help you with BS1192/ISO19650 compatibility and build mapping tables to convert your standard class naming, let us know. Classes will come prefixed with ‘A-’ for ‘Architecture’. This is easily changed using the ‘Batch Rename’ command found in the 'Tools' menu in Vectorworks 2020 and 2021. If you need a previous version of Vectorworks or classes specific to your role, or preferred prefix, get in touch. Disclaimer: The classes are offered 'as found' to aid compatibility with industry standards, and should be checked and adjusted to suit your practice and project requirements. The attached file has been checked for viruses but please take the necessary steps to ensure it is virus free before being introduced into your CAD system. Wishing you a Happy New Year. Regards Steven Shorter BA(Hons) DiplArch(pcl) ARB A-Classes-BS1192-EF-v1_7-2021.vwx
  6. The problem though might be that data visualisation won’t work on symbols in the same way it will on walls and plugins. if not then there’s a wish for Christmas.
  7. The issue is the symbol name and the assignment of data. Visualising this via workspace is dead easy as is checking which class the symbol is on.
  8. I know but that’s what happens in AutoCAD. Data is drawn in 0 (and you would be surprised how many users create the class ‘0’ and use it despite it not being a VW class) and block is given layer. Explode symbol and everything ends up in 0.
  9. We generally find that remotely hosted library content is a major issue and slows vectorworks down massively. We would always recommend hosting on Dropbox. We have had issues in Box unless the Libraries folder is 'offline'. We host and manage a number of content libraries for our clients via Dropbox, and it works fine.
  10. If this means that everyone is going to start drawing in 'None' or '0' and then make the symbol class do the work...no thanks! Have had enough of other people's bad habits, particularly those using AutoCAD and Revit to make me seriously think about changing profession!
  11. I think a lot of objects could use this functionality; to allow locking the position but not necessarily stop it being edited. The object's location is locked but you can edit all other aspects including class.
  12. Please rename this... Please call it... Align or Link Origin to Origin since this is what it is doing.
  13. Most of the so-called BIM consultants in the UK are selling you Revit too but then know nothing about IFC, which is odd considering they are calling themselves 'BIM' consultants.
  14. The issue is probably not Revit, to be fair, but Revit 'out of the box'. So few appear capable of configuring Revit (and the same can be said of Vectorworks and any other software) to make it do what they want it to do. Just look at a drawing from Revit and you will see what I mean, and given only about 10% of Revit users have even heard of IFC (because they believe the hype that by simply opening Revit they are 'doing BIM') setting up the correct IFC import settings would not be on anyone's radar, and even if they had heard of IFC they probably don't realise that the mapping tables in Revit need to be adjusted, and that they should never link an IFC even though they can. If Terra is still working for Vectorworks perhaps we should revisit that White Paper on 'IFC'?
  15. Mr Jackson has invested a lot of time (not sure for what reward) getting around the issues of working with IFC and Revit. He does some nice articles on building Lego 'BIM' models.
  16. Yes. I have been involved in a number of projects where the Lead Architect uses Revit. They have set up systems within Revit that are so Revit-centric and bespoke that they are incapable of receiving data in any other form other than as Revit files. They have become so insular that they are now unable to work with anyone unless they use Revit. THIS IS NOT BIM!!!! It is just a revit project. It is very sad to see Architects like this not even understand how to incorporate 2D data, or accept spreadsheets that show exactly the data they want but that have not been exported from Revit.
  17. That might have been me... but yes capitulating and issuing RVT presents a huge problem: how do you check the RVT is complete without using proprietary software to do so. you would never issue native file formats unless you owned that software too. bentley users are not so arrogant to believe that everyone should issue dgn nor archicad. But then such users are usually more capable and understand the purpose of ifc. They might not like it but they understand it. The issue remains though that Revit import of ifc is hit and miss at best. not good for the supposed market leader in BIM. Perhaps they should look up what BIM means. By their definition (sharing native files, producing drawings and schedules from native files etc) isn’t BIM. It’s simply ‘Using Revit’.
  18. Revit's IFC import is absolutely shocking. Always has been. Even the most broad-minded Revit consultants I know think Revit's IFC importer is bad. I think it is a very sorry state of affairs when the Vectorworks Revit exporter achieves better results than Revit importing an IFC. Discuss.
  19. Whenever there is a misalignment of information, why is it that the Vectorworks user is singled out? I know some Vectorworks users are pretty shoddy when it comes to drafting accuracy (most of whom don't know their smartpoint from their smartedge) and I put this down to zero or inadequate training, but when a project is set up correctly, and everything can be proven to be located accurately, why are Vectorworks users always blamed for being wrong, even though we can demonstrate quite clearly that we are right? We worked on a project around a year ago, where the surveyor produced a point cloud. They were not asked to produce a point cloud but charged for it nonetheless. The surveyor then build a very geometrically over-simplified 'BIM' model using a well-known software (not Vectorworks) and the point cloud as the base. They did not ask where we would like them to model. They did not ask where the project origin was. They just modelled. Nothing unusual there. They also produced a load of really bad drawinhgs from the model. Nothing unusual there either. The [insert software name here] model was then issued, reluctantly, as an IFC, in OS cooridnates, along with the geo-located point cloud. We set about creating our project template, setting up the coordinate system, coordinating the project origin and levels, etc. We imported the point cloud and demonstrated independently that it was located in Vectorworks correctly. We imported the IFC and demonstrated independently that it was located in Vectorworks correctly. The design team consultants (and perhaps this issue is due to the sort of person that chooses to use a certain vendor's products...I don't know) imports the IFC, and the point cloud, but surprise, surprise, they do not align with their model. They try again. They open a blank file and try again. Failed again. Rather than try to figure out what might be happening in [insert software name here], perhaps testing different import settings, or project setup (they had not actually followed our recommended project setup and had not aligned project origins but of course they use [insert software name here] so are right...), they actually had the temerity to suggest that Vectorworks must have got it wrong bringing in the IFC and Point Cloud correctly because they couldn't!!!! How does that happen? Does this sound familiar? I have once again today and also yesterday, been asked to check if Vectorworks is at fault, because data in Vectorworks does not align with [insert software name here], but I can demonstrate clearly that we are right, and have everything set up correctly, and also demonstrate through two non-proprietary IFC viewers, that the 'other' IFC is not set up correctly and yet we are still wrong, even though we are right! If this is happening to you, get in touch. We are happy to help you verify your data is correctly located or if not, help you so that it is.
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