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     the extra-super-duper eyedropper (Ctrl +Alt)  is called Create Similar Object and works with all objects. Just be careful that it also changes the active class. I have been caught out sometimes when I forget to change the class to the correct one. 


    Thanks Jonathan.

    I really think the term  'extra-super-duper eyedropper' is far more elegant, mysterious, and should definitely be included into the VW literature. 


    My current class / layer hygiene/ discipline is pretty raw at the moment. So I've got a lot of room for improvement anyway.



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  2. Thanks Pat,


    A colleague just showed me that the easiest way accomplish what I need is to change one dimension and use the extra-super-duper eyedropper (Ctrl +Alt) to keep creating new dims just like that.  It's not a permanent thing in the resources, but done done on the fly. 

    Fair enough. I was probably over-complicating things.


    Have a good New Year.

  3. Hello all,

    As a newby I am still coming up with questions which may be silly.


    Is there a way to create a dimension style which only comes up with a standard text leader ( "EQ") instead of the measurement? 

    Some sort of symbol / label which you scale / stretch on first use like a dimension?


    Thanks for the help!


    dim sample.JPG

  4. Thanks Zoomer.

    I know about the tracking slider, and in my humble (but correct) opinion, it's garbage. 

    I use it because I have no other option.


    Spacing out letters in their own boxes makes an absolute mockery of the last 40 years of computer graphic interfaces.

    I have the feeling this sums up VW for me.

    Great for counting plants, but tortuously inefficient for actual graphic processes.

    "like drawing with your good hand tied behind your back" I believe was a quote I saw in the forum somewhere.\

    Don't get me started on the lack of polyline editing shortcuts.



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  5. 15 hours ago, Tom W. said:

    I agree with @scottmoore the best way to scale a group of objects from the centre is to use the Modify > Scale Objects... > Symmetric By Distance command. And don't be like me + ignore for years the little dims buttons to the side 184989723_Screenshot2020-11-15at06_56_40.thumb.png.9118ddcf8fed7b78e4db123f159b00fd.png  : they allow you to quickly take dims direct from the drawing which speeds up the process considerably!

    Or just use 'Symmetric' option + add a factor of 0.5 or 2 to half or double the size of the group or by whatever factor you want. Again, will scale from the centre by default.

    Thanks Tom,

    I agree that's a useful method for accurate scaling.

    As for "allow you to quickly take dims direct from the drawing which speeds up the process considerably!"  I'm afraid I humbly disagree.

    The time is very quickly multiplied when doing all those extra steps in drilling into menus and sub sub menus and clicking at least 5 times within in it.


    The quickest (and not nesc any less accurate method if using snaps correctly) would be to use a simple grabbing modifier and simply pull the offending group /object bigger /smaller, just like the Illustrator example I've given previously. 


    ALT (for a centre anchor) + SHIFT (proportional) + grab a corner and go.

    Bang, done.



    I understand now that this bit of UX is unavailable in VW, but I'd hope the dev team might see fit to include it one day.


    Still curious to know why the fixed point scale doesn't work as described. 


  6. Thanks Pat,


    I have just attempted what you advised. 

    It works to hold Ctrl + Shift for a rectangle, but not a group or any other object. (edit: rounded rectangle and ovals work too)

    Where the little dot is selected on the info palette seem to not make any difference to any grip-scaling. That was one of my first thoughts when going through this.

    Is there an option to make that selection matter or link to the objects / groups in question? I could almost live with that.



  7. Since there is no functionality to casually scale from the centre of an object or group (except circles), I've been trying to make the 'Scale from fixed point' tool work (A frustrating extra step which interrupts work flow.)


    Unfortunately it fails to work either.


    I snap to the centre point of what ever it is, a shape, a group and try to drag it out proportionally, but no joy.

    Holding shift just constrains the distortion vertically or horizontally. 
    Holding Alt does nothing. Shift+Alt nothing.
    Beating my forehead against the keyboard just produces random results and scares colleagues.


    The text snap cues have all disappeared also. As far as I can tell, they are on in the options settings, but I only get little symbols which I guess at.

    I'm OK with that but I have a feeling this is all tied together as both a bug and a basic (bad) functionality. 

    Perhaps a Service pack will fix it.

    The basic functionality however needs a serious overhaul.


    I really really really think VW needs to take a cue from Adobe Illustrator and see how there object scaling functionality grips works. AI is extremely intuitive and is a joy to use with / Alt constraints. 


    Thanks for any help anyone might give.


  8. I have a mystery palette which is rather persistent.

    I can drag it around, but it will not go away.

    All the palettes listed under 'Window' are accounted for, so it's not one of them.

    It just keeps popping up in the same place whenever I open VW and will not save as any arbitrary new position, like the others.

    It also has the magical power to hover over every screen or application even when VW is minimised. 

    When VW is exited and closes down, this is the last thing to disappear. 


    It is happy to hide under the other palettes, but I feel that it is probably too scared to go into the ultimate blackness of eternity, so it hangs around like this, hoping for some impossible reprieve unto usefulness.    


    Are there any priests out there willing to perform a kindly exorcism?



  9. Thank you for your time _C_,

    As I said, I think there are a few issues to sort out with V2021, because only the tab slider seems to do anything. 

    There is some rudimentary control from within the Object Info box, but no absolutely no handles / rotation etc.

    I can move the text box. That's it.


    Perhaps there is another control option buried in Preferences, which I have not yet found to enable.



    I look forward to future improvements.



  10. 4 minutes ago, _c_ said:

    Illustrator and InDesign are another liga altogether, but ACAD LT?

    Explain your needs?


    Thanks for your response.


    Generally I would like to see better control over text and text boxes.

    The lack of control handles on text boxes was a bit of a shock for a start!

    Kerning, paragraph controls, columns, re-flow.  etc.


    As a usability tip, how about actually showing the actual font as a representation, within the font selection window? 


    A full text / paragraph palette to drag out and use while editing. 


    The callouts should have better, intuitive controls / handles.


    Hope to see these improvements soon, as my office is forcing me onto VW. 


  11. As a newby, I am appalled by the lack of control to text.

    VW was touted to me as an all-singing/dancing replacement to several other workflow packages.


    I've explore all the options that I can see in VW 2021, and I feel I'll need to go back to Adobe Illustrator, InDesign, or even ACAD LT to get any reasonable level of graphic control over text.

    Even the help pages are blatantly untrue in regards to the control points on text boxes. 


    Really unimpressed.

  12. I have just consulted with a seasoned VW user here in the office, and she is scratching her head also.

    I am trying to reference a rectangle drawn onto paperspace (not sure if term is correct in VW) while re-cropping a re-scaled VP, to ensure that the size is the same.

    The rectangle is not showing while in the 'edit / crop VP' mode. 

    A crop marker has been created through the current VP


    The 'Display VP outside Crop / Gray outside Crop' is checked.

    All the classes / layers have been double checked.


    I have checked this issue with a new fresh document created entirely within VW, inheriting no potential issues from older templates etc.


    While I admit I am a complete newby, this issue has puzzled the best VW minds in our office.


    Many thanks for your help.


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