DSmith2300

An hour ago I could adjust settings of the hatch for a landscape area, including rotation. There was a little button where I have circled in red. 20 mins ago I made the mistake of updating to SP 4... and that button is gone. I have no way of rotating the hatch in my drawing without (brutally) painfully trying to adjust the hatch itself, since LAs are so locked-down. OK update before I post... I have quickly tested realised that with this update I CAN NOW use the Attribute Mapping tool and adjust the rotation of single LA hatches. What If I want to do it by style so the rotation and hatch size is consistent? Please bring that button back!!!!

Awesome Kat, good news!

We need a way to control polygons beyond the restricted single class and limited styles that VW allows currently. Either allow multiple user-generated classes OR Allow more control over graphic style of polygon line: colour, dash, thickness etc.

Thanks Katarina. I'll avoid them as much as possible until SP4 comes out.

Apologies Katarina, I cannot post commercially sensitive data here. There has been some 'improvement' of the bug this morning, in that now I am able to select the required LA style and it will actually draw that style; plants and graphics. Changing the style however, is extremely hit or miss. Sometimes it will accept all the new style settings, sometimes only the plants, sometimes only the graphics, sometimes only the graphics but it wipes out the plants altogether. This happens if I create it as existing style or an unstyled LA. Either way, changing the attributes (fill/ pen / opacity) of any LA is impossible unless one drills down into the style itself even if the graphics are set to 'by instance'. I'm going to charitably clock it up to this file which is a modified document and probably more than a year old. Perhaps a purge will help. Looking forward to SP4.

Thanks for that third clarification. I will still hold my hand up to the forum and Nemetschek, stomp my foot, and say: "This is a stupid interaction with the software." To be able to say 'no markers' at the creation of a class seem straightforward, simple and a no-brainer. I will die on this hill.

Thank Katarina, and apologies for my rage. Bad night. Basically I'm just trying to make another landscape area style, but no matter what I do, any new LA will only take on the graphic style of the first one I created ( a few weeks ago). I cannot chage the fill nor the opacity either through the style, the OIP, or the attributes palette. I can set it up in the creation palettes to look different, but as soon as I draw it, it changes to look like the only other style in the project. I don't use them often but when I do, I find more and more that they lead to frustration and so avoid them further.

Landscape areas are so unresponsive to change. I cannot change the opacity. They keep telling me what hatch they are going to have even though I set it in the style of the new LA. Changes to the style do not reflect in the areas already on the plan. Banging me head agianst the wall trying to get them to do WHAT I XXXXING TELL THEM TO DO. SO ANGRY AT THE TIME WASTED ON TRYING TO NAVIGATE THE STUPID CHANGES THAT VECTORWORKS KEEPS INFLICTING ON US AND MAKING THINGS WORSE.

I've solved it by changing the view in the OIP to a preset view, then undoing it (Ctrl+z) then updating VP.

OK thanks Pat. So to mangle your words; it doesn't matter what the new class setting say the markers are, because you have to go to extra lengths to turn them on, more than merely 'all attributes by class'. ? That's reassuring... but still really stupid. It's so dumb I'm struggling to think of a sarcastic metaphor to describe it.

This VP used to be fine, and now it's doing the clipping thing. I've refreshed it and fiddled but it refuses to heal up. Any suggestions?

I saw an old thread on this for VW '22 but didn't see the resolution. Now in 2025 SP3 and having this issue. Making a new class, cannot see any option for setting class-level line end-markers to 'none'. I should not need to engage in a 'workaround' to make an infintessimally small marker-end. The default option HAS to be there. Unamused.

OMG I want to reach into the hard drive and punch VW right in the code. No matter what I do. The various landscape areas already drawn WILL NOT reflect any plant information changes I make to the master style. The only thing I've manged to do is convert them to groups, ungroup them, then sample a new little piece of the revised LA style then zap them to make them landscape areas again. I cannot see any settings to make them by style / by instance. There's no fancy set up with them. A simple hatch and a couple of plants. Thanks goodness the project isn't huge or complicated or I'd really be tearing my hair out with lost time trying to change every damned LA manually.

LOL. They're going to ignore it no matter what I do.

Once again, I am asking for real kerning controls. The 'tracking' slider is, uh, interesting, but overly crude. If I place the cursor between two letters to tweak the kerning, the spacing also frequently changes on the other side of the letter, thus throwing it all off again. I'm not sure of the technical terminology for the way this is handled, but the letter spacing is blocked around the letters, rather than seeing actual space in-between the letters. No point in importing carefully kerned text from other programs if VW will only screw it up again. Don't want to bring in raster images of such text for design documentation. Why go to other programs if VW could do the job?