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  1. Pat Stanford

    Snap to Intersection

    Correct. I personally like to have the Snap box about twice as big as the Selection box. and I have both set fairly large. This means I often have to zoom in (or use the Snap Loupe) to get to a point where I can identify a single snap point, but I eventually found some settings that I like. But part of the reason I have them large is that I often do demos and it is easier for the audience to see the large size.
  2. Pat Stanford

    Snap to Intersection

    How do you have your Snap Box and Selection Box set in the Interactive pane of VW Preferences. VW will allow you to snap to anything that is inside the Snap Box and to select anything that is inside the Selection box. It almost sounds like you have your Snap Box set too large and Selection Box set to small for what you are trying to do.
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    Dimension precision doesn't update upon change

    In my opinion, since each dimension can have its precision set individually in the OIP, this is the designed and correct behavior. If I have manually set the precision for some dimensions and not for others and then I choose to change the setting for the document, I would not want the new document setting to necessarily override my manual settings. Think site plan versus detail. You can either use your change the units (though I bet it only works if you change to fractional fee & inches) or select all the dimensions and change the setting in the OIP.
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    Make Symbols Unique

    An alternative workflow to accomplish this would be: Convert to Group Cmd-K Ungroup Cmd-U Create Symbol Something like Duplicate Symbol in Place would be good.
  5. I don't believe you got the right information from Tech Support. I just created a drawing with objects in greyed classes and layers. Both on a design layer and in a viewport the object still show in OpenGL. What does not show is the edges of the objects. Coupled with the very light grey that is used it can make it hard to see the objects. An additional option to show edges on Greyed layers and classes would be a very good addition.
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    Apartment Area

    Dom, I think the 11_Area actually returns the value in the current document unit area settings. Best to not depend on that being a specific unit. Better to do the conversion to what you want yourself if you are doing calculations.
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    Record Formats disappearing

    These plants are set up as Red Symbols. That means that while they are "symbols" so they can be shown in the Resource Browser and moved between files, when they are placed into the drawing they are converted back into a Plant PlugIn Object. You have attached the record to the Symbol. When the Symbol goes away and the object is converted back to a PIO, you lose your attached records. I can think of two ways around this: 1. Edit the symbol and attach the records to the PIO contained inside the symbol. That way when the "symbol" goes away, the records will still be attached to the PIO and you will have the data that you want. But this will make it impossible to edit the data in the Resource Browser. You will have to edit the symbol and do the attaching and data manipulation in the OIP. 2. Change the symbols so that rather than convert to PIOs, they stay as symbols. But then they will not show up at Plants if you need that for your worksheets. Of the In Symbol option of the Criteria Builder might still get you the Plants into a worksheet. But you won't be able to edit the plant in the OIP without first editing the symbol. I hope this has been clear enough. If not, ask again.
  8. So I saw the problem, but I have no idea what is causing it. In the Class_Issues file, I switched to a Top/Plan view, right clicked on one of the object and selected Activate Class and everything became selectable and stayed that way as I changed views. I did not see a problem in the Jug file.
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    Workgroup Library

    Check these thread for more info.
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    Workgroup Library

    Maybe, but I think it should work with Application/Workgroup/User folders as long as everything is in the correct folder hierarchy.
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    Workgroup Library

    Yes, no, and maybe. You can set up your library any way you want it to be, but if you want the objects in the library to show up as Default Content in the various VW tools, then they have to be saved in the correct location. No way around that. BUT, the Default Content library folders also recognize alias/shortcuts. So you can set up you library however you want and then put an alias in the correct folder to get the objects to show in the default content.
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    Worksheet Function / Criteria Question

    In VW2019 the Length, Width, Height functions have been fixed so they return the proper values regardless of the angle of the view. In VW2018 and before, they return the screen dimensions of the bounding box. If you were in VW2019 I would recommend just doing the math yourself with =Length*Width. In VW2015 you could do the same if your stairs are always aligned to the primary axis and you only recalculate the worksheet from a non-rotated Top/Plan view.
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    Standard symbols in Instrument Schedule

    @michaelk and I did a seminar at the design summit on Worksheets where we did a combined door and window schedule. In the database criteria you select all of the different types of objects and then in the column formulas you use IF statements to return the data from the correct record.field for each object type. Works OK if you only have a couple of object types and a few columns but can get complicated if you have a lot you are trying to combine. I am slammed until at least the middle of next week, but may have a little time then to post a demo.
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    Door id not showing up in door schedule

    The formula in the header row has somehow gotten changed to be incorrect. The correct formula to be entered in the header row (i.e. 3, not 3.1, 3.2, etc) should be ='Door'.'IDLabel' If you don'd see the header row Make sure you are in the header row and type that in with single quote marks around the record ('Door') and the field ('IDLabel') and you should be good to go to the worksheet View menu and make sure Database Headers is checked. It looks like someone tried to type a column header label into the database header row and changed the formula. You need to put the textual labels a row above the database. If you don't want the header row to show, you can go to the worksheet View menu and uncheck the Show Database Headers to hide the header row.
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    window quantity

    Sorry for the delay. The Criteria set the objects that are going to return in each database row. It sounds like you have done that part OK and have all the objects you want in a database. The SUMmary option collapses the subrows so that there is a single subrow for each value in the column that is SUMmarried. The =Count formula will go into the Header Row (ie. 3, not 3.1, 3.2, etc.) for the column that you want to show the number of objects in each row. Insert a new column where you want the total and enter the =Count formula into the header row and you should get what you need.
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    window quantity

    Formula for the Qty column should be =Count. That will show how many objects have been Summarized into a single subrow.
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    How to report dimensions of symbols or objects in a worksheet

    Unfortunately, you are correct. I think it is a bug. I don't know a work around. Sorry.
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    Not the right size

    My guess is units. DWG drawing is in feet or meters and VW is importing as inches/mm.
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    How to report dimensions of symbols or objects in a worksheet

    The three primary "directions" in VW are Width, Height, Length. Have you tried those three? I don't have VW accessible right now, so I can't test, but I think I did all three dimensions in my earlier tests.
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    2D components for Hybrid objects not showing up?

    1. That is the way Hybrid Objects work. 2D shows in Top/Plan, 3D shows in every other view. 2. VW defines 2D to be Screen Plane objects. If you have a hybrid with some screen plane and some other objects, Screen Plane objects will display in Top/Plan and not other views. Layer Plane (or Working Plane) objects will display in all views other than Top/Plan and not in Top/Plan. Depending on your workflow, just changing the objects to fully 3D by changing the Screen Plane objects to Layer Plane may get you what you want. If not, you may need to duplicate the "2D" portion and have both Layer Plane and Screen Plane objects so you get what you want in all views.
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    Concurrent Open Documents?

    I keep individual "units" in separate drawing files and then reference these into a master drawing file. So at any time I will have 1 to 3 pipe and instrument drawings (separate files) along with the master layout, and multiple (at least 3, on the last project I would have liked to have had 6) unit layout files open. that way I can easily switch files, make the edit and then update the reference to fix the master layout. When reading the forum and trying to help other users I often open a new file (or 3) and tend to look back through my historical files to see what might be applicable. Often I hit the file limit. Neither are likely typical use cases for anyone other than me.
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    How to report dimensions of symbols or objects in a worksheet

    Not a strange 2017 bug, just a 2019 improvement. What you are seeing was always the behavior. They finally got around to improving it in 2019. Been a pain for a really long time. Much better now, but I keep forgetting it is fixed and doing things the old ways.
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    How to report dimensions of symbols or objects in a worksheet

    Busy day so vey lightly tested, Top/Plan view, Front view, Isometric view. Recalculated in each. Values remained the same. Values for objects that are rotated off of the primary axes also appear to display correctly.
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    How to report dimensions of symbols or objects in a worksheet

    Works in 2019. But I only checked the first three items. There is some slight difference due to rounding for display. You should be able to control that by the cell format settings in the worksheet.
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    How to report dimensions of symbols or objects in a worksheet

    I just tried this in VW2019. I am getting the correct values for generic solids in different orientations. Are you using VW2019? If so, please post a file showing some of your objects that are not giving the correct values for us to take a look. If you are not using 2019 and this is important to you, you will need to upgrade. I don't know of any reasonable work around for older versions. You could attach a custom record format and write a script that would store the info in the custom record that could them be accessed from the worksheet, but you would have to run the script each time you made changes to objects to make sure the correct information is in the record.


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