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Stéphane

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  1. On 12/3/2020 at 12:32 AM, TKA said:

    yes, depending where is the data coming from, the issue here is that if you use static text the flipping will occur, I managed using record formats to add prefix in the formula - data tag layout (unstyled), edit dynamic text/tag field, pick the record formula than add in front of it what would be otherwise in static text.  Once that is done then tag works with horizontal auto positioning.

     

    I get your idea which is nice but is it still possible to have a User-entered Field with your method ? 

     

    To pick @drelARCH example : 

     

    first tag : "SS 31.1"

    second tag : "SS 21.1" 

     

    where "SS" is the prefix in the formula and where "31.1" or "21.1" can be set manually (User-entered Field, not linked to an object). In other words, is there an User-entered Field formula ? 

  2. I might be completely dumb but I havent managed to add a seconde leader line to my custom data tag... Is it a hidden button ? Right click somewhere ? Was I rude to my computer ? 

     

    I am actually trying a workaround because my texts flip position as shown at the end of the movie... 

     

    "Multiple leader lines" is ticked. 

    Nothing like "Add leader line" in the right click menu... 

     

     

     

      

  3. On 4/19/2017 at 12:05 PM, markdd said:

    With a Sheet Layer Viewport. Set the design layer to the view you want to show on the sheet, in screen plane, draw a rectangle crop around the view you want to display on the viewport, select it, then run the Create Viewport command from the view menu and place the viewport on a new sheet layer. Voila! You will need to mess about with the right scale of the viewport as well as the dpi settings of the sheet layer to get a smart result but its pretty straightforward forward after that.

     

    Example attached

    Clip Cube SECTION.vwx

     

    😍

  4. On 5/7/2019 at 11:09 AM, line-weight said:

    I find heliodons to be generally temperamental and that they sometimes start doing weird stuff. I suspect this sometimes to happen when I've duplicated one. I quite often just delete the troublesome one and make a new one; sometimes that fixes things.

     

    Exactly. What appears to be a bug, still occurs in VW 2021. 

  5. Ok, thank you for the answer. 

     

    What would be your preferred way to deal with trees, knowing that some trees will stand on a Section Line and that you work with realistic RWs ?

     

    1) VBvisual plants in the design space 

    2) Image props in the design space 

    3) Trees in the annotation space 

  6. Hello. 

     

    I have an issue regarding the Cut Plane and Display you can find by right clicking a section VP and choose Edit Section in Place. 

     

    I have trees. Some trees are cut by my Section Line. I don't want them to be cut. How to achieve this ? 

     

    I have done two things  

     

    1) Watched @Matt Panzer video for the correct procedure 

    On 4/18/2019 at 3:11 PM, Matt Panzer said:

     

     

    2) Done this test which confuses me 

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    The trees are VBvisual plants. I copied the Tree n°1 five times. Trees n°1-3 are on the Section Line. Trees n°4-6 are behind the Section Line. 

     

    Tree n° 1 is what I want to avoid. You can see little section lines you don't want to get. The tree has also less leaves because they are logically removed by the Cut Plane. 

    I want my trees n°1-3 to look like my trees n°4-6 even if they are cut by the Section Line. 

    The settings of Trees n° 2 and n° 3 don't seem to solve my issue. 

     

     

    If I may also summon @Christiaan and @zoomer to ask you how you would solve this issue and more generally, how do you deal with trees ? I would appreciate your help. 

     

     

  7. It might seem trivial but in the maze of VW settings you can easily forget basic things : 

     

    After having updated VW (from 2019 to 2020), my workgroup folder ressources vanished from my ressource manager. That's because you need to update your ressource files as well. For instance, your customized hatch file you created in VW2019 "My Hatch v2019.vwx" needs to be converted into VW2020. 

     

    By the way, if you have a complex customized library to convert, you have an awesome tool : File>Batch Convert 

     

     

  8. Hello, 

     

    Until now I was drafting my plans with 2D plans VP. I am discovering the perks of having horizontal sections VP instead (it helps you to show properly the layers that are beyond the section plane; see for instance my ramp and its wall). 

     

    However : 

     

    1) I cannot understand why I don't see my site anymore

    I checked that the class and layer of my site were properly activated and that there was no class overrides 

     

    2) I cannot understand why my blue rectangle is not blue anymore. 

    I checked the black only option (unticked) in advanced properties and there is no attributes overrides in Objects Beyond Section Plane. 

     

     

    2D plan VP 

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    Horizontal section VP 

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  9. On 1/22/2021 at 6:04 PM, Matt Panzer said:

    Is there a reason you haven't updated to 2021 SP2?

    That version should fix the vanishing line issues.

     

    I updated it to SP2 and I must say it solved several graphic issues... 

  10. 4 minutes ago, Matt Panzer said:

    Is there a reason you haven't updated to 2021 SP2?

     

    At each update, I am always a bit afraid that I will get even more issues 🙂. But I will give it a shot. 

     

     

    7 minutes ago, Matt Panzer said:

    We typically recommend placing these objects in the viewport annotation space

     

    Little by little, I start to be a firm believer of this strategy... Most of the text I have them in the annotation space anyway because they are only related to one layout. I still believe that some very general texts (like levels or room names), typically texts you can use for more than one layout, are better in the design space because this way you don't need to copy them in different layouts (and update them multiple times). I could however imagine changing my habits... 

     

     

    Once more, thank you Matt for your dedication. 

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  11. Thank you Matt for your answer. 

     

    1) Merge Structural Objects with Same Fill do the trick BUT some lines vanish. I could of course enable Add Profil Line, but it is not as nice since I need various line thickness. Plus, It won't resolve the lines-that-vanish-somewhere-in-the-middle-of-the-wall issue (see bottom right corner next to the door). 

     

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    2) The text "- 3.00" is actually a data tag. Does that change something to the problem ? Its Z-height is correct and shouldn't be visible. Also, why does it not shows its frame, like in the picture ? If I add the same label in the annotation space, then the frame shows up correctly. 

     

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  12. Hello, 

     

    I am exploring horizontal section. 

     

    1) Why the components don't join properly (it looks like two separate walls) ? In plan they are joined properly together. 

     

    2) Why can I see the text "- 3.00" which should be hidden by the slab above on which you can see the text "126 m²" ? 

     

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  13. @Tom W., @zoomer, I mean everything that could be part of a floor but are vertical more than horizontal. For instance when you need to insulate your screed... See images below :

     

    I was wondering how you would do it. 3D model it ? Or patch it directly in the layout ? Or is it just going too much into details and you would produce anyway a 2D detail ? 

     

     

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  14. With this solution @Kevin K, you solve the elevation thickness of the slab in elevation (under the "59200" marker), but now everything that is beyond the cut line has one single color which is your grey. It doesn't look bad tho. However (and sorry if I might be too picky), what I would like to do is being able to give more than only one attribute for objects beyond cut line (for instance grey 0.05 for the surface hatch and black 0.10 for the other objects). In this case, this means we cannot use Objects Beyond Cut Plane. 

     

    If we don't use Objects Beyond Cut Plane, it means we have to be able to control lines thickness of an object when they are cut AND when they are in elevation. This is the case for walls (as described earlier) but not for slabs as explained below. 

     

    After having done further tests, my conclusion, sharing @jeff prince one, is this one : 

     

    Section Pen Attribute for slabs components doesn't work as expected. That's it. 

     

    On 12/17/2020 at 5:07 PM, jeff prince said:

    Unfortunately, the Section Pen attribute (found inside the slab's components) of a Slab does not behave as I would expect...It uses this value in BOTH section plane and elevation beyond.  That seems like a bug, or illogical operation for sure.

     

    After all, I would say that @Kevin K way to do it, is still the best way. 

  15. On 12/18/2020 at 6:24 PM, Kevin K said:

    I would still like to get my hands on that file!!!   🙂

     

    Sorry for the delay. There we go. 

     TEST FILE.vwx

     

     

    On 12/18/2020 at 6:24 PM, Kevin K said:

    One item....regarding the hatch issue......could you not just make a duplicate of that hatch and change the hatch settings to be gray?  Then override the settings for the viewport to use they gray hatch settings?? 

     

    The thing is I want 2 colors in elevation. Grey for the hatch and black for the other lines. The green is just for the test (makes it more obvious) but it should be grey. 

  16. First, thank you very much @jeff prince and again, @Kevin K, for your answers. I feel relieved, since I use exactly the same strategy for the attributes in Advanced Section Properties, which means I cannot be completely crazy ! 

     

     

    On 12/17/2020 at 5:07 PM, jeff prince said:

    It seems a cut wall AND the wall beyond the section line take on their component attributes, slabs do the same thing.

     

    Look at my section, it doesn't. Cut wall take on their component attributes, and walls beyond section line take on the wall attributes. Based on my test, slabs don't do the same thing. (If I am not completely crazy). 

     

     

    On 12/17/2020 at 5:07 PM, jeff prince said:

    Unfortunately, the Section Pen attribute (found inside the slab's components) of a Slab does not behave as I would expect...It uses this value in BOTH section plane and elevation beyond.  That seems like a bug, or illogical operation for sure.

     

    Okay, I am not completely crazy. I tested it and that was also my feeling. 

     

     

    On 12/17/2020 at 5:07 PM, jeff prince said:

    For the Slab issue mentioned earlier, you could set the components to the pen thickness you would like to see in elevation and rely on Advanced Properties-Profile Line to depict them in section correctly.  

     

    This could be a nice idea. I will give it a try. But notice that it is the 180° reverse logic compare to the walls. So, we give walls class attributes, their section lines thickness. And we give slabs class attributes, their elevation lines thickness. Then, we override the slabs lines thickness when they are cut and we override the walls lines thickness when they are in elevation. Honestly, I'm pretty sure VW want us to be crazy. 

     

     

    On 12/17/2020 at 5:07 PM, jeff prince said:

    For your colored hatch patterns in elevation, you can edit them and use a color or grey inside the hatch definition independent of the container object's class.  This will not be effected by the class used to place the wall, but will be overridden if you use Advanced Properties and assign a class for objects beyond the section line with different attributes.

     

    Exactly. This is the whole issue with this. So, I use the same setting as you with the Objects Beyond Cut Plane setting to force each lines beyond cut plane to be thin and black. Now, I want my Surface Hatches to be grey. But they become black because of this override. Well, no problem, I untick Objects Beyond Cut Plane. But now my slab in elevation has a thick line ! This is exactly the reason why I try to solve this slab lines thickness issue. 

     

     

    15 hours ago, Kevin K said:

    So, tell me....is his (the) main issue he is having involve what he points out regarding the thicker line for his slab ??  He wants it to be a thinner line?

    Is that correct, or am I still missing the point??

     

    Yes, it is correct ! This issue is actually linked to the previous quote. 

     

     

    15 hours ago, Kevin K said:

    Why would you use colored lines of any sort on items that will be included in a set of plans that will eventually be submitted to the building department, etc?

     

    The green is just for the test. I actually want them grey, which is also a color 🙂

     

     

    15 hours ago, Kevin K said:

    Sorry, that might have been a bit arcane.

     

    Don't be sorry. I realize my whole post is arcane. You are very kind and patient. Thank you for this. 

     

     

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  17. 1 hour ago, Tom W. said:

    Hi @Stéphane I mean whether you have the roof components all ending square with the roof edge or whether you have some of them offset outwards or inwards. The last column:

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    I think you are using French language software so perhaps translates as something different?

     

     

    Now, I understand. I have no special edge conditions... Everything ends square. No offsets. 

     

    Look, if it doesn't even work properly with simple settings, why would I want to make it even more complicated ? 

  18. 5 minutes ago, markdd said:

    Great. Sorry, I thought that you had tried this option originally.

    Don't ignore the Analysis tool though. It is a fantastically useful way of producing a range of points where objects intersect. Much underused in my opinion.....

     

    I was confused because I couldn't find "Automatic Plan" anymore but it is actually  hidden until you select the 3D Locus tool. My bad. Sorry. By the way I'm happy to have learned the existence of this Analysis Tool. 

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