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  1. hi michaelk; as i'm sure you know, you can send label legend elements to the front or back. but it sounds like this is not the case here. and the fact that it's accessory-sensitive makes it an even better mystery. i duplicated as best i could what you described in vw2008. pasting a spotlight altman 6" fresnel into a document, and then assigning it a label legend. i could not make the unit number become 'hidden' either with or without an accessory or a device. i can only suggest at this point that you consider submitting this to tech support. sadly, i can't remember the actual email address. apologies. good luck, shelley
  2. hello emily; is this for **any** label legends, or just one? if one, then make another; this one sounds corrupted. if **all**, then try importing the LL into a new doc. if **new doc**, then try creating new LL. and if that doesn't work, time to sound the alarm and call tech support (?). hth, shelley
  3. hello iamawookie; i've made a quick "1 electric", added five lighting devices, and assigned them to the 1 electric. when i turn the position summary box on, it correctly shows the 5 source 4-50?. i too cannot edit the onscreen position summary box adjacent to the lighting position in the drawing. i can only affect change (delete a unit), and then invoke 'refresh instruments' and the position summary is updated. what info are you trying to change? i think the position summary window in the document itself is only a report reflection. as to the channel/dimmer situation, sounds like it may be a singular label legend assigned to only two lighting devices. check the LL name in the bottom of the OIP. if it is the same for the two fixtures, edit that LL, or replace, or reassign a different one to the two problem children. but they are Label Legends i think, not pipe labels. hth, shelley
  4. hello jim; Yikes! i've not experienced what you're seeing (knocking madly on anything resembling wood). this sounds like a job for tech support. good luck, shelley
  5. Hello G: you need to have a lighting device selected before you can invoke the "assign Legend to Inst". are you certain that you are selecting lighting devices and not just 2d symbols? regardless, it sounds like you need to get to someone else who knows spotlight and watch them on the screen. or send your file to tech support? good luck, shelley
  6. hello G Cliff; i have an old copy of 11.5. i'm currently on mac OS 10.5.5, perhaps the app is too old? anyway, i just attempted to dupe your sequence; i opened a doc, i selected spotlight>instrument processing>label legend manager, and the label legend manager window properly appeared. i added a new label called 'shelley'. in the 'add new legend' window i double-clicked on unit number, color, channel, and purpose. i clicked ok, i then clicked on 'edit layout'; i edited and clicked ok. i then selected 'shelley' from the resource browser and edited it some more. no problem. i then made a fresnel symbol active in the RB, inserted it into the drawing using the spotlight instrument insertion tool, and assigned the label legend. no problem. then i inserted the same fresnel into the drawing using the 2d symbol insertion tool, convert to instrument, assign label legend. no problem. does this help at all? hope so, shelley
  7. Hi Scott; yes, when you convert to multi circuit your numbering options reduce. when you wish to label them 201, 202, etc, i presume this is unit number, right? if so you might consider trying to merely group them? or not group them? when you invoke the multi circuit, you are then stuck with the suffix issue in the numbering (i **think**). but yeah, you're right; the user fields will not be helpful to you. hth, shelley
  8. hi kelrock; i can't address all of your comments because i don't use some of the stuff you're talking about. when you talk about the size limitation of the label legends, on the other hand, i wonder what size or scale of unit you're working with. on most lighting fixtures, moving or conventional, if you paste one in a LL box, it (and the accompanying text) will fit easily presuming the fixture is in 1/2" scale. maybe with your 1000 unit plots you're working so small that the text is then huge? or maybe you're working with big honkin' fixtures? in any event, you might consider changing the percentage scale of the drawing, and have that help in the reduction. so that the symbols (?) and/or the text (?) wouldn't need to be so huge. then again, i could be missing the problem completely. good luck, shelley
  9. hi goldie; in vw12.5 you can also click on the layer button in the top menu bar (that may not be the correct name) next to the class button and the X & Y data fields. hth, shelley
  10. Hi kevin; so you can add the user fields but you still can't reorganize the light info record, right? cuze boy-howdy there is still a lot of info in the OIP for lighting devices that is stuff that 9 times out of 10 i don't give a hoot about. and i'm **always** having to scroll up and down and up and down in the OIP to get to class vs label legend vs layer vs... well you get the idea. shelley
  11. Hi ceester; when Kevin says to "check that your origin is somewhere reasonable", what i **think** he means is to edit your symbol (activate symbol in RB, select edit, select 2d component) and check that what you think is the middle of the symbol actually ends up at the proper X zero and Y zero point on the ruler. right kevin? shelley
  12. hello CY; as i read your note i'm a bit confused by your nomenclature. when you say you're in the 'edit info' window of the light data record, do you mean that you are first selecting the label legend manager, and then choosing to 'edit layout'? or are you editing the 'light info record' in the resource browser? i **think** you're saying the first, that you're editing layout within the label legend manager. right? in which case, if my assumpting is correct: the lack of displayed data--i would first check the "label" classes. it sounds like most/all of them have been turned off somehow. which would in turn make all your applicable labels invisible. second, it sounds like the generic symbol that you're seeing in the 'edit layout' window, or the actual symbol you've attached the label to, has either had it's class turned off, or the symbol has somehow been deleted from the resource browser. hth, shelley
  13. hi michael; i attempt to make the 3d as accurate as possible, based on the 2d which i try to dupe in overall size to the available art on that particular fixture/device. (sweep or extrude). on some of the moving lights which feature bodies comprised of multiple curves and planes, i reduce them to simple shapes in an attempt to keep file size down. i decided that moving lights would more often be hanging down than sitting on floor, so i make my defaults hang. (when i need a floor unit, flipping the unit can be simple or complex, depending on how **exact** you need the 3d to appear.) i usually tilt all fixtures 30 degrees. when i use text (esp. for lamp designations) i'll make a duplicate set of fixtures that use slashes and other lines to designate beam spread as well. i try to keep text (or anything else) to a minimum to reduce unecessary visual clutter or ink usage. i think the only 3d text i use is the EDLT series in the ETC object library. (i also remember making an umbrella in a 3d fixture when i had too much coffee but i don't remember which fixture it was....) usually i try to keep the text in the "nose" of the fixture, but under 7 point i often place it somewhere else adjacent to the fixture. i always use the nemetschek-provided default intstrument texture, especially since version 12. hth, shelley
  14. hi herrick; if the instrument is facing "upstage" in the label legend, you should be able to edit the LL, exit the symbol, deselect everything, invoke 'refresh instruments', and see the results. i have found that, once i have found one LL that works for most fixtures, that when i want the channel/handle in a different position, i have to duplicate&modify a separate/new LL. apply that new LL to as many fixtures as seems profitable. see how many are left that require the channel/handle in yet another position, duplicate&modify, etc. ymmv. good luck. shelley
  15. hi michael; i created my own graphic standards, based off spotlight conventions, in my collection of object libraries called SoftSymbols. version 3 is completely updated (as of fall/winter 07), and includes vari-lite, martin, coemar, robe, and clay paky, to name a few. you can download a complete list of the current symbols at http://www.fieldtemplate.com/soft/SoftSymbols_TotalData.pdf hth, shelley
  16. hello Lightsact; you are accurate in your description and your dilemma. no, the legends no longer flip. this was changed in vw12 as memory serves. the flip impacts only the lighting device. i have asked for it to be returned to it's former state and have found no one who feels the same way. i feel your pain but right now to my knowledge there is no alternative but to create an additional label legend that is a "flip" of your original, in order to achieve what you describe. so first you flip the lighting device, then you apply the "flipped" label legend (or change the name in the 'use legend' OIP data pane). hth, shelley
  17. Hi Jeff; take a look at sam jones' Chain Hoist series of plug-ins and macros. shareware, available at his website www.autoplotvw.com hth, shelley
  18. hi ray; i don't know about creative. i think i started using it since the "W" in whole made that saved sheet typically drop down to the bottom of the saved sheet list. on the other hand, your "all" would keep the same thing up at the top, which might not be a bad thing. sometimes when i start to get myself into trouble i also create the opposite saved sheet, the "whole naked enchilada". every class and layer turned off, and only active class and layer viewed. shelley
  19. hello JCS; it's also worth checking which mode the 2D selection tool is in. when the 2D tool is selected, check the icons above the horizontal ruler. there are three against the left side of the drawing. the furthest left-hand icon shows a diagonal line with an arrow at both ends and a red-slashed circle in the lower right hand corner. this is the "Disable Interactive Scaling Mode" icon. click the next icon to the right (same diagonal line w/arrow ends, NO red-slash circle). this is the "Single Object Interactive Mode", and when it is selected, it's more likely that you'll be able to select a lighting device with a label legend and see/grab the label control points. hth, shelley
  20. all true, kevin. it's also worth checking what the active class is when you insert your lighting device. if, for example, the active class is "dimension" while you're inserting lighting devices, those lighting devices will be in the "dimension" class. when the dimension class is turned off, the lighting devices will disappear. i create a saved sheet (that i call Whole Enchilada) that has every class and layer turned on, when i insert a lighting device or any symbol and it disappears, i double click on the Whole Enchilada saved sheet. typically, the missing symbol (in the wrong class) re-appears. hth, shelley
  21. all true, kevin. it's also worth checking what the active class is when you insert your lighting device. if, for example, the active class is "dimension" while you're inserting lighting devices, those lighting devices will be in the "dimension" class. when the dimension class is turned off, the lighting devices will disappear. i create a saved sheet (that i call Whole Enchilada) that has every class and layer turned on, when i insert a lighting device or any symbol and it disappears, i double click on the Whole Enchilada saved sheet. typically, the missing symbol (in the wrong class) re-appears. hth, shelley
  22. hello bfeaginir; if you can, send me an example and i'll take a look at it. in the meantime, it sounds like the alignment of the text may be the culprit (?). were i in your situation i would duplicate the label legend from one that "worked" [the individual label handles became active upon selection], then move the labels to their new desired position, then apply that label to an example lighting device--basically experimentation. hth, shelley mrtemplate@earthlink.net
  23. hello josh; are you using a spotlight 2008 symbol? or is it a fresnel imported from a vw version earlier than vw12? if it is the latter (earlier than vw12), then the default texture of the symbol's 3d component may be stopping the light. for that matter, earlier symbols' 3d light point-of-origin defaulted from the middle of the c-clamp. if the light position is an import from an earlier version, it may be the culprit. hth, shelley
  24. hi albrecht; man, i have seen other postings or emails or **something** about this of late. the 'new label legend displays the text, not the data' problem. i have not experienced it myself. knock on head, er, wood. for your initial problem, have you tried to go "the other way"? open the house plot, the paste your existing plot into the house plot doc? sorry that's all i got right now. if i can find that other thread/email i'll post. shelley
  25. Just on the side, to return to the original thread. i think the discussion of layers and classes takes on a different perspective when one considers using them in sections. my .015 cents. shelley
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