DaveF

quote: Originally posted by Katie: Because you can't. It's not a property of a symbol. Just like you can't edit a PIO by editing it. You have to edit it thru the OIP. Excuse my ignorance, but what is the OIP? I know about editing plug-ins via the create plug-ins command under Organise. Is that what your on about? Think about it - it's a symbol - a container of several different objects that is meant to be repeated over and over in the drawing so you don't have to redraw it each time. By resizing a single symbol, you would change the accuracy of a repetitive object in the drawing. I'm not sure I agree with you on that point. Wouldn't it just resize it? Since symbols are defined by a definition of objects rather than an instance of objects, you have to edit the symbol to change paramters of the definition of objects. When editing a single symbol in the drawing, you are editing the definition of the symbol. You can't change the size of one single symbol in a drawing - or else it wouldn't be the same symbol as the other objects using the same object definition. Part of the definition includes the dimensions and shape of those objects. I know you can't do it now but I still don't see why VW can't be programmed to allow an instance of a symbol to be rescaled. That would not redefine it. It would still be the same symbol, containing the same objects (lines, text etc.) just at a different size. Acad manages to do it just fine.

quote: Originally posted by Jim Smith: DaveF, Have you used the "group" function rather than a symbol? As long as a group does not have a symbol inside it, one should be able to scale the grouped object. If you have many symbols that you use, go to edit symbol, copy what is contained in the symbol, then paste that in the drawing (as a group). Jim, Unfortunately the way my company has set it up, the symbols have records inside them. Again, correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I'm aware groups can't contain records.

quote: Originally posted by Katie: You can when in edit symbol mode. Two points, please correct me if I'm talking rubbish: 1) This, unfortunately, acts globally on all instances of the symbol. Autocad allows rescaling on an individual instance of a block. 2) The edit symbol does not really scale, it's actually like editing/redrawing the symbol. You cannot make changes to a symbol unless you are in the edit mode. That's the rule of thumb for symbols. I understand that. What I'm trying to find out is why is there this limitation. Why can't you scale a symbol in the scale objects dialog? [ 05-06-2003, 09:51 AM: Message edited by: DaveF ]

quote: Originally posted by CipesDesign: David, No this is incorrect. When you insert a symbol into a layer the symbol WILL take on the scale of that layer. PC I know it takes on the scale. That's the problem. I have symbols on different scaled layers which, when plotted, I want to appear the same size. Therefore I have to create a symbol for each scale that I want to use. Which is v. labourious. In Autocad when inserting a Block (which is the nearest thing to a VW symbol) into a drawing, you can specify a scale for the block, which means only one version of the block (symbol) has to be created. This thread is referring to something different: that is the SCALE OBJECTS command, which will scale and object regardless of the layer's scale setting. PC Yes I know, & what I'm asking is why isn't symbol scaling using SCALE OBJECTS a part of VW. If anyone knows of a solution to this problem, please let me know. [ 05-06-2003, 07:07 AM: Message edited by: DaveF ]

Hi Vectorworks v8.5.2 & v9.5.2, Windows XP I've been pulling my hair out during the Easter break over a number of problems. I hope you can help with a couple of them: 1. I've written a routine that calls the leader line tool. Is there a way to set it so defaults to the unconstrained leader mode? 2. How do I edit the Icons when creating a tool plug-in. I want to copy the leader line icon & edit it slightly for a new tool. the plug-in editor says 'paste a 32x32 pict' but I've no idea how - there's no right click & paste option. 3. At Vectordepot->Plug-ins, http://www.vectordepot.com/PlugIns1.shtml there's a routine called Layer & Class Options Palette by David Kenney. It says it's written for v9.0 but I'm unable to open it in v9.5.2.(Unrecognised File) Could someone kindly save it into an earlier version & e-mail it to me. 4.I've a routine that creates a new class. How do I set the fill for this class to None? I've tried using the SetClFillBack but I don't know what the number is for 'None'. I thought GetClFillBack would give me the answer, but there appears to be a bug in that it doesn't return the current value. 5. v9.5.2 - in vectorscript editor there appears to no right click & paste - is this correct? 6. I want to write a routine that will make invisible all the classes except those of the entities the user will select. I can select the entities a find their classes, but I've no idea how to find all the classes in the document & cycle through them to see if they correspond with one of the selected entities. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I hope I've explained myself clearly enough.

Thanks for replying. >3.call tool ( what ever the number is for the >cloud tool) . How do I do that? [ 04-16-2003, 04:29 AM: Message edited by: DaveF ]

Hi All I'm new to Vscript. using Vectorworks v9.5.2 I wish to add to the revision cloud routine so that it always draws the cloud on a specific class. Unfortunately it appears locked. Is there a way to unlock it for editing or is there another way of doing this? [ 04-15-2003, 07:13 AM: Message edited by: DaveF ]