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  1. Cheeselog

    Basic selection tool questions

    The inconsistency of operations order is a perplexing thing as well. To move an object in Vectorworks, the user must select the object first and then the move command or tool. But to fillet or chamfer, the user must select the operation first and then the impacted objects.
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    Basic selection tool questions

    I'm sorry, I have no idea what happened there. And I have no idea how to delete my posts on here. Thank you. All of this is quite helpful. Much more so than the "getting started" section of the Vectorworks site. I didn't even know there were more "commands" up in the menu. Another thing the "getting started" and the introductory modeling videos left out, I guess. As for the selection first workflow order... old habits are hard to break. I was on AutoCAD for 17 years and I've been on Vectorworks for about a week. I'll need to get used to that, but it's going to be a struggle for a while. I'm using Vectorworks 2019 SP3 with Fundamentals, Spotlight, and Renderworks. The Vectorworks site training videos thus far seem to be... less than helpful. But I recently discovered their Youtube page and I found a skatepark creation tutorial for Vectorworks 2015 that seems to be more informative than anything I've found for 2019.
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    Basic selection tool questions

    My typical flow goes like this: Realize I want to move an object. Look at the toolbar and find one that seems like it would move an object. Move by points seems to be what, I want to do. Select the tool. Try to select the object I want to move, and get confused why I can't select it. Remember that it's AutoCAD that lets you select the tool first, and Vectorworks won't let you do that. Hit the escape key. Select the object again. Realize that escape doesn't escape you out of the move by points tool. Select the selection tool. Finally succeed in selecting the object. Then select the move by points tool again. Try the first mode: move mode. Sounds promising, that's what I want to do. Select the edge of the object I want to move, select the point I want to move it to. It moves the object to where I want it, but creates an array of duplicate objects. That's not what I want, control z undo. Try the second mode: distribute mode. I don't really want to distribute anything, but there's only 3 options so try it anyways. Choose the point on the object, choose the destination. It also moves the object to where I want it to be, but also creates an array of duplicate objects that's a different pattern than the first mode. Control z, that's not what I need either. Try the third option: reference point mode. Yes, that's what I want to do! Move an item by a reference point of my choosing! Finally! Choose the point on the object, choose the destination, and a window pops up asking me to enter an offset value. The data entry field is prepopulated, so I assume that's the distance I want to move it. Looks good. Hit ok. The popup window closes, but the object doesn't move. Try it again. Window pops up again, this time you realize that the data entry field is asking for an offset value. I don't want to offset it at all, do I? No, I'd use the offset tool to offset objects. Why are there offset options in the move tool? I want to move by points, not offset by points. Whatever. I click in the text entry field and enter an offset value of 0. Click ok, and the object goes where I want it to go without making any duplicates. That's the end result I want, but it's so many steps to do what used to be a 3 click, no typing operation in AutoCAD. Maybe if the default value in that offset box was 0 it would go a little faster, but I haven't found a way to do that. I tried the way you suggested, changing the number of duplicates and all. That seems to work, but it seems like an awful lot of work just to move something. I wish there was a mode to just move things without duplicating them and without having to dictate an offset value of 0. As far as the move command, I'm not exactly sure what you mean. What's the difference between a command and a tool? Are there other, more simple move functions in the program that aren't the Move by Points tool? All I want to do it take a line, select an end of the line as my reference point, and move that same reference edge of the line I selected to a point of my choosing without duplicating it or offsetting it or anything. Is there a simple way to do that?
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    Entering measurements in feet and inches

    That's what I needed. Thanks!
  5. What is the preferred format for entering specific distances in feet and inches? For example, in AutoCAD, if I wanted to draw a line that was one foot, nine and a half inches long, I'd type: 1'9-1/2" What do I type to draw a line of the same length in Vectorworks? I'm sorry if I'm asking a question that's been answered elsewhere. I'd assume this information is somewhere on the Vectorworks site but I've had no luck finding it in the search function. Maybe I'm using the wrong nomenclature?
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    Basic selection tool questions

    I watched the training video on Move by Points, and I don't understand the logic behind it. It seems like the Array tool in AutoCAD, but I don't want to array the object, I just want to move it. The only mode that doesn't array the object is the Reference Point mode, and it does not seem to produce predictable results. I select the object, use the little data entry box to tell it how far to move and at which angle to move, and.... it doesn't move it to that, it opens up a dialogue box with my designated move distance as an offset distance. Now if I click "ok" and don't change the value in the text field, nothing will move. If I want to move it to the parameters I've already typed, I have to select an offset distance of 0. Which is just.... bizarre to me. If I wanted to offset the object, I'd use the Offset tool. I just want to move the object using a corner of the object as a reference point.
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    Basic selection tool questions

    Thank you. That pre-selection highlighting being the exact same color as the selection highlighting was utterly confusing. Now the item changes to a different color once selected. I might just turn off pre-selection at a later date, but I can see where it might be helpful in a crowded drawing. I also figured out how to disable the reshaping of an object when trying to move it or select it. I will very, very rarely freehand the reshaping of anything. I'm trying to unlearn just about everything from AutoCad. I'm used to selecting a command before selecting an object, and Vectorworks doesn't seem to allow that easily. I miss being able to click drag left or right for different selection options, but I guess I'll get over that. What I really miss from AutoCAD is just the simple move tool and copy with base point. In Vectorworks I find myself often accidentally moving things I didn't mean to move, and it's frustrating. I never had that issue with AutoCAD. Oh well. Onward and upwards. Thank you for your input. Just being able to know when I have something selected is a huge, huge help.
  8. I'm a very, very new user. I've watched all of the "getting started" videos through the 2D modeling section. Yet when I try to practice the techniques I've watched demonstrated, I continue to fall on my face. I feel like there are very basic things I'm missing, and I think the most basic of them is using the selection tool. The videos supplied in the getting started guides on here seem to talk about selecting solid objects, but are not helpful for selecting a simple line that is not a solid object. I'm able to select solid objects, so I don't think it's a hardware issue. I made a brand new blank drawing. Class: none. Layer: design layer 1. No visibility options changed, no layers or classes locked. I made a rectangle. I chose the selection tool. I moved the cursor toward my rectangle. As I got close, the border of the rectangle went from a solid line to a dashed line. The outline of the rectangle turned orange as the cursor moved to within the boundaries of the rectangle. I clicked inside the boundaries, and the "object window" went from blank to chock full of information about the object selected. I pressed delete, and it disappeared. So far so good. I make a line. I click on the "selection" tool. I take my mouse and move the cursor toward the line. As I get the cursor close to the line, the line takes on a dashed appearance, and a little text box shows up that says "object." I click, and the line doesn't become selected. I press delete and nothing happens. What am I doing wrong? Also it's really, really confusing that the solid object I want to select turns orange as I hover over it, but when I select it there seems to be absolutely no graphical representation that the object has been selected other than the object info window suddenly becoming populated up in the corner of my workspace. Is there any setting in the program to have visual feedback on when something is selected? Perhaps change the color from orange to... any other color else once the item is actually selected? I'm not sure of the terminology, I'm sorry. I poked around the visual settings and there was an option to change the "pre-selection" color but it seemed to have no effect on this so maybe it doesn't mean what I think it means.
  9. I believe it was a 3D view issue. Thank you. It's excessively confusing that the number keys on the top row of the keyboard do different things than the number keys on the side of the keyboard. The difference between the function of the two number entry options is not yet muscle memory to me.
  10. I'm still trying to learn my way around the software, and I don't believe I have used a symbol yet. If I did, it was accidental. No borders of any type have appeared. This thread mentioned a "working plane." I did a google image search of the term, and it surely resembles the pink square I'm seeing. I just don't understand how I'm activating it, why it seems to make the rest of the drawing disappear, or how to get rid of the pink square after I accidentally make it show up.
  11. I am having a similar issue. I've been using Vectorworks for less than a week now. Long time AutoCAD user. Sometimes my drawing entirely disappears and this pink square pops up in its place. The pink square has a dashed border and a slightly darker pink color inside. Often a red vertical line appears at the same time. Neither the square nor the red line seem to be selectable. "Undo" doesn't seem to have any effect. Panning and zooming make the pink square move about the screen, but my drawing doesn't seem to be there. Zoomed all the way out, I can create a selection marquee, but nothing gets selected. All of my layers and classes are set to visible. This comment thread seemed to state that this might be a 3D view, but I'm not familiar with 3D operations yet. When I close the program and restart it, the pink square and red line disappear and I'm back to normal, but I keep losing all of my work. I'm using Vectorworks 2019 SP3 on a Windows machine. If someone could tell me what I'm doing to make this pink square appear and how to avoid making it appear in the future, I'd greatly appreciate it.

 

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