I find many of the toolkit electrical symbols a bit clunky, so way back in Minicad 6, we created our own folder of symbols. We have seperate folders for 1/8", 1/4" and 1/2" symbols depending on the level, of detail. Site electrical could be at 1/8, Kitchen plan could be at 1/2, etc.... It would be great if these worked like the reference symbols that are now part of the AEC markers, and as icon tools in Architect. We used to do all our symbols on a 1:1 layer, or have seperate scales. that was hard to do. We have many of the electrical fixture symbols linked to a record format for easy fixture schedule creation... this should be part of any new electrical symbol tool.