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  1. Ah I thought you were using them in a design layer not in a viewport annotation. That sounds more like a bug to me in this case, I'll get a bug report opened for it. I'll make an enhancement request for this
  2. As far as I know this is not a bug but the intended behavior of this mode of the Data tag tool. The selected eligible object insertion mode was added in 2022 to provide a better insertion workflow in Design layers due to this behavior.
  3. Hi Chris You will need to make a Service Select fixture request to have the fixtures added to the Vision libraries, this will then make the modes available in Spotlight. The other option is to reach out to the manufacturer and ask if they will create the GDTF's for the fixtures. If you only need the DMX footprint you can manually add that into the Lighting devices properties as long as there isn't a specific mode selected. Gruße Jesse
  4. Hi @ajpen Can you dm me a copy of both the MVR and the Spotlight file so I can take a look? Gruße Jesse
  5. This is a result of a known issue that corrupted some of our truss content. The underlying bug (which has been fixed in service pack3) caused 6 way corners to lose part of their data about how the corner behaves. Now the the bug itself is fixed you can manually fix the corner symbol by right clicking on it and choosing the Customise Truss Data command in the context menu In the truss properties dialogue look at the right hand side of the dialogue and you will see that the P1 measurement is 0,0,0 (X, Y, Z) this should be set to be 146,0,0 (I'm using mm so correct for your document units) hit ok to exit the dialogue and the same in the 2 following warning dialogues. This will fix the symbol definition So that you don't have to do this again in the future save the edited symbol into your favorites, user or workgroup folder
  6. There are two ways to edit the color of truss symbols if you only need the 2D geometry changed, go to the Spotlight Preferences 'Loads and Rigging' section (in File>Document Settings) and activate the 'Modify Truss Object Color' check box. This allows you to use change the color of truss symbol using either the attribute palette or based on its class. If you want to edit the truss symbol definition itself to create a custom colored truss library then you need to do the editing from inside the resource manager. Import the truss symbol or symbols you want to edit in to the active file resources, right click on the symbol and select edit 2D component. You can now edit the 2D geometry's fill and line color exit the edit interface and repeat the process but select edit 3D component. Again use the attribute palette to make the changes. Make sure to save the edited symbol with a new name so that you don't accidentally overwrite it if you need to re import the original library version. Live data viz works in a similar fashion to setting up a report or worksheet, you have to set up the criteria to define what objects and bit of data it will work with for this example make sure you have at least a couple of truss objects of different lengths inserted to access live data viz look for the glasses icon at the right hand side of the view bar and click on it. if its not there use the triangle at the end of the bar to turn it on once you have clicked on the icon select new Data Visualization in the menu You should now be in the New data Visualization dialogue, first give the the new data vis a name Define the object criteria for what is going to be affected, this could be an all objects, by name, by class etc... There is a long list of options. For a trusses leave this as all objects Now set the display criteria, this controls what data will be colored and how, First set the color drop down, this defines the type of data that will be worked with for example object using record or object using parameter. Your choice here defines what options are available in the drop-downs to the right of the colors drop-down. For trusses use object with parameter Use the 2 drop-downs to the right to define what specific bit of data you will color, for this example set the top one to Truss and the bottom to length You should now see several lengths in the list below the drop-downs corresponding to the truss lengths in your file, hit the auto color button to assign each a color override, you may need to check the color settings if only the fill gets assigned a color. Hit ok to save it and exit now click on the dat avis icon and you shuld see your new data visualization in the bottom half of the menu, click on it to activate it. In the design layer the trusses will be colored based on their lengths. You can also use data vis in sheet layer viewports and it will provide a handy legend saying what each color corresponds too Here some links to the Vecrtoworks university about data vis https://university.vectorworks.net/mod/page/view.php?id=282 https://university.vectorworks.net/mod/scorm/player.php?a=173&currentorg=articulate_rise&scoid=346 and the help page https://app-help.vectorworks.net/2022/eng/VW2022_Guide/Views/Viewing_the_drawing_by_data_or_by_attributes.htm?rhmapfs=true#h
  7. Not at the moment, there are two options to avoid using the data Use data tags (but at this point there isn't any way to get the tag to color like the label does), set it to display the Hook weight equivalent and distro/properties fields. Another possibly better route is to use the Spotlight Report command to create a Hoist worksheet and use that to rename the hoists back to the original IDs store the hoist ID in the name field (or any other user defined field), this can be done in the worksheet or when you first created the hoists using auto-numbering Create the worksheet, set it to display Hoist ID and Hoist Name as columns (or the field you duplicated the Hoist ID in) once the IDs have been reset open the worksheet, select the complete name column contents (without the header) and copy and paste it into the ID column. This will update all the hoists back to the original ID's in one go I'm putting in several enhancement requests based on the points you raise here Add the hoist label coordinates back into the hoist properties To have the Reset Braceworks command looked at with a view to adding some user controlled options to control whether user defined ID's like the Hoist ID is reset or whether only the objects internal id (the UUID) is affected To have Braceworks color data tags attached to hoists (and potentially other rigging objects) the same as it does with labels.
  8. @capital_Designs Were the hanging position symbols created in a 2022 file or are they resources that you have forward ported from an older file or project? Also are you in 2D top plan or a 3D view when inserting the light or dragging them on the hanging position? I'm working on a win 10 machine which may be another factor in why it works for me (and is relevant for the bug report)
  9. Have you set the label to use a separate class from the hoist? If you have check that classes fill attribute setting If you haven't use the Hoist objects classes button to set the label to a separate class and give it a different fill to see if that fixes the issue
  10. @Jordan Grimes was this file created using 2022? If so did you use the current updated truss libraries (with magnets) or a truss library forward ported from 2021? Personally I can't reproduce this issue in 2022 , but I have seen it before in previous versions of Spotlight (2021 and earlier) and the solution there was to turn off the Rigging-Truss- Insertion Points class (at least for me).
  11. I can't answer all of this, so I'll comment on the bits I can and reach out to the dev team about the bits I can't, The top right example is behaving as I would expect, except for the fact that the bumper is overlapping with the truss geometry since it has a hanging angle. This doesn't seem to affect being able to make the Braceworks calculation and when a re-hung the truss with the same hanging angle as the bumper it also calculates correctly. In the top left example the reason it didn't calculate is that there are 2 errors, the truss line is not correctly draw, the 2 truss sections are vertically offset from each other. This is why there is a truss cross displaying at the join of the 2 truss section. the Arrays hanging support parameter is set to 'two hoists', which will prevent it from connecting to the truss as it assumes the truss is a single connection point. This is probably a feature enhancement as I have seen plenty of arrays hung with multiple points (clamps, slings, Steelflex, etc..) from trusses when I was still working as a tech. Once these issues are addressed it will calculate (I used calculate selection). In the case of the referenced examples (in both the main and the reference file) Auto-connect is not registering the connection between the rigging objects and the arrays, there is no connection highlight when trying to connect inside either file. I tried playing around with both files a bit, the only other thing I noticed was that the trusses are not at the same trim height as the arrays (if you look in at them in 3D they are on the floor. Moving them to the correct trim height however made no difference I still couldn't get it to calculate correctly I've opened a bug report for this but this is beyond my personal experience, so I'll need to wait till I've had a chance to discuss this with the dev team.
  12. Hi Charles Nice workaround, Seeing this has given me another idea for a workaround, Create a custom adapter plate to link the hoists to the vertical truss, effectively it would be a custom truss T-corner symbol. This would have a couple of advantages, you would only need to create the plate once for each truss type you use, so no need to set up a bumper each time you need to hang a vertical truss because it would be a standard truss symbol there wouldn't be any need to create custom symbols for the vertical truss and lights for each different configuration used, just draw the truss as normal and attach the lights. on the down side it would require a bit more work for the initial creation of the adapter plate symbols
  13. The error is caused when a supporting hoist is being pushed up by the truss it is supporting due to how the truss line is deflecting elsewhere on the line, in this case it looks like adding the extra outriggers and the associated weight of the lights they are supporting is pushing the end of the truss line up which is in turn pushing the hoist up slightly. Have a look at the vertical deflection force lines. In most cases to fix the issue you can either use the chain shorten field on the hoist to adjust it manually or turn on compensate drops to correct this automatically Its meant to notify you when a load object is supported by two structural elements (pipes or trusses), for example a drape that extends between two truss lines or when a load object is close enough to 2 structural objects that it could be connected to both. Its a warning and won't stop the calculation. However there is currently a bug where this message is getting triggered when it shouldn't, which will be why it is triggering incorrectly for the light on the left hand truss in your image
  14. Thanks for explaining this in more detail, I didn't actually realize this option existed, Can you attach a single hoist? It may be that the array has the Hanging Support drop-down set to single hoist in its properties, which would explain why the array connect to the truss. If this is not the case can you send me an example file to have a look at?
  15. Sorry its taken a while to respond to this one, The issue discussed above is being worked on currently, I'm not sure when the fix will be ready though. I'm not 100% sure if I am understanding what you are asking here, so please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm reading this as you are trying to perform a Braceworks calculation on a sheet layer viewport. Braceworks calculations have to be performed in a design layer and can then be displayed in a sheet layer viewport afterwords. If you perform the calculation on a dedicated layer you can use this combined with the Braceworks Preferences results display tab settings to control the results visibility for your sheet layer viewports. If you are meaning you want to perform Braceworks calculations on objects that have been referenced in from an external file (perhaps as a referenced layer) then this won't work as the referenced object are not actually in the current file, which means their data is not fully accessible to Braceworks. The only solution here is to fully import the layer or file and do the calculations, or if its not being referenced from a VWX you will need to recreate the portions of the design you want to calculate using Spotlight symbols and objects.
  16. Hi Charles One workaround that a friend in Switzerland showed me is to attach a T-piece corner section to the top of the vertical truss and then connect the hoists to the T-piece. Another option, if you are planning to attach a hoist to the top and bottom (another point away form the top) of the truss is to insert the vertical truss, change into a side or front view and then insert the hoists, in this scenario I tend to set the lower hoist to use the hoist up symbol option so that the body of the hoist isn't inside of the truss A third option if you only want to use a single hoist is to create a symbol of the vertical truss and attached objects (extract the 3D geometry from the symbols, do not just use the inserted truss or lighting device objects) to use with a point load object. Set the point load to the same weight as the combined weight of the truss and attached lights (and any other equipment). Not that I'm aware of, I'll make an enhancement request for this, but distributed load objects can't attach directly to a hoist so it wouldn't be possible to use this as a direct workaround. You could try a horizontal pipe with a point load for the combined weight of the truss and lights
  17. Currently there is no correct way to attach a hoist to a bumper bar as they aren't enabled for Braceworks. If need them for documentation or rendering purposes you have to manually position the hoist. The issue is the same with the rigging guides, they are not supported in Braceworks. They are primarily for documentation purposes and not designed to be used with Braceworks.
  18. @Mickey You can change the truss symbols truss type by right clicking on the truss symbol in the design layer and using the Customize Truss Symbol Data command. The best workflow that I have found for this is to do the editing in the truss library file, once you have renamed the symbols and changed the fills insert each truss symbol into the design layer, right click on the truss and choose Customize Truss Data this will open the truss properties dialogue allowing you to edit the hidden BrxTrussItem data record go to the 'Type' field and edit the contents, typically for colored truss I just add the color to the exiting contents next copy and paste the new 'Type' into the connectable with field so that Auto-connect will continue working with the edited symbol hit OK to save the changes into your file repeat for each symbol after all the symbols are edited delete them from the design layer (make sure to not delete them in the file resources!) Close and save the library file into your application library with a new name for example Tomcat **** black. Also make sure to make a back up in either your User or work-group folder Run the 'Refresh Libraries' command in the resource manager
  19. I think this is more a question for Parallels, does it support OpenGL 4.1? if not then there is no chance that Vision will run inside of it. From our side we do not actively support running any Vectorworks (including Vision) software in any VM environment, except for testing and utility purposes, due to the performance impact VM's have.
  20. I just tested your file and found that if I changed the 'Hoist Position' drop-down to 'Show No Hoist' then the system will calculate correctly (at least in 2021 sp5). I also tested using 2022 sp2.1 and it worked correctly there. Let me know if this works for you I've opened a bug report to get the underlying problem fixed
  21. You should also be able to use the command on the truss symbols in the active file, that may be a better route for updating an ongoing project file. I've just done some quick testing, its definitely a bug. It looks like the main issue is that the existing Truss objects OIP is not updating/refreshing to display both the edited truss properties from the BrxTrussItemRecord and any attached records from the new symbol definition that has been imported. The truss object is updating the the weight etc.. in the background, if you use the Customize truss symbol data command it will display the correct data from the newly imported symbol definition, but doesn't seem to be pushing the changes anywhere else that should be updated I've opened a bug report
  22. There is a menu command that will the magnets to your libraries, 'Update Truss Magnets'. After using it you will still need to check the allowable rotation parameter of the magnets as it will only set a default of 180° I'll have a look into this, Truss objects don't use the truss record attached to the symbol definition, It instead use the concealed BrxTrussItemRecord. this can only be easily accessed using the right click context menu Customize Truss symbol command. This will open the same Truss properties command that the Braceworks menu convert to truss command opens to configure the trusses properties. This is where you will need to update the trusses weight.
  23. Hi Jeroen The lights should be attached automatically to the hanging position when you inserted them. What happens when you use the select system object button in the hanging positions properties? What are your auto positioning settings in the Spotlight preferences Loads and rigging pane? Can you send me the file to have a look?
  24. I think I know why this is happening, but I'm not 100% certain It sounds like you are using custom truss symbols, for the black truss section (and possibly for the regular silver versions as well). As far as I can tell the truss inventory uses the 'Type' from the truss object properties (not from the older truss record) combined with the symbol name to define whether a section should be included in the Change Truss Configuration dialogue, this means that if there are multiple truss symbols with different symbol names (and colors) but the using the same type and length, they will each be displayed as individual options in the dialogue. After a bit of testing I found that if I changed the symbol name, and the 'Type' and 'Name' fields in the truss object properties to include the color I could get them to display as separate truss types in the inventory and avoid having them display wrongly in the Change Truss Configuration dialogue. I also had to update the 'Connectable with' field in the truss object properties to include the new black version of the symbol so that Autoconnect keeps working. I will add an enhancement request to find a better solution for this and to have the documentation in our help updated to better explain how this works
  25. Sorry Andrew you're correct that was a typo on my side, I meant to say it not as easy as it should be, I'll correct it
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