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Hello, Is VW looking into the limitations for 'Styled' objects and are they looking to improve them? If so we want to note what we believe there is a fundamental issue with replacing styled objects within the resource manager. We have a feeling others have noted this is the past but we wanted to push this forward again. We've noticed this for a few VW iterations that when you delete a 'Plugin object style' within the resource manager IE Door style/ window style etc etc... If the style is assigned to an object within the active VW document it will then set that parametric object to 'Unstyled'. We work on 'High rise commercial residential buildings' which are normally 5 - 8 floors at a minumum however we currently have some projects which are 14-32 stories high. The issue we have is that we have projects where the styled plugin object is deleted within the resource manager and then without the user noticing or they just simply forget, a large segment of doors (& other parametric objects that have a style assigned) etc is then converted to 'Unstyled' within the active VW document. To clarify we tend to use 'design layer viewports' for layers where the entire floor is truly identical & repeated on design layers for each floor, I am more so referring to where the plans and layouts are different for each floor however the assets we use are exactly the same specification which is where we use our styled plugin types. To stop this from happening we were hoping for the ability to have 'styled' parametric objects to be able to be replaced properly from the resource manager much like traditional black symbols. In this case for the new 'Style' within the resource to replace the previous style for every parametric object within the active VW document that the previous style was assigned to. We understand that there are methods to reduce this from happening such as doing a 'custom modification command' or using the 'select similar tool' however the point of the style object is having the ability to control hundreds if not thousands (on some projects we've had) of styled doors etc which can be controlled without issue. Adding a workflow to additionally search for assets introduces 'human error' within our checking procedure for our models which can be significantly reduced by having the same logic as 'replacing symbols'. Thank you you very much for your time, apologies for the lengthly post this for us is and has been a consistent issue.

Hello everyone, Happy new year! I feel like ive learned a bit on marionette and i know i still have allot to learn. Right now im currently trying to utilise what ive found on here from great examples from people like 'DomC' to make plugins for our practice that helps people generate symbols for their project. There are a few issues ive found and i really could use some help. The idea is that the user drops in the plugin into their active VW doc, it generates a project specific folder for file management then creates a standard 'Black symbol' with IFC attached. Right now however: 1. Folder generates 2. Symbol is created but it is a 'Blue symbol' for some reason :S ????! 3. It attaches IFC 4. When you create the same symbol name it generates multiple random Blue symbols on the files root resource manager Beyond this; it would be really cool if we had a pop up dialog node that allows us to have a String, boolean, multiple choice inside one dialog popup instead of having multiple pop ups and if we had the ability to have the plugin activate when you drop it into a file. But i suppose baby steps! Need to get this working first.... Ive attached one plugin ive created and i was hoping to figure this out before i progress with the others. Plugin to generate symbols.vwx

Thank you for this, very much appreciated.

Hi all, I was hoping someone knew how to use the data tags to show a height from FFL for each story. Right now we have only managed to create data tags which select the slab tool that take heights from the height of the layer with an assigned story. Example attached... So after testing it, when a story is attached to the layer it adds the overall level to the objects height. When a story is not attached it shows the height of the slab. However the majority of our large scale modelled projects utilise stories therefore this is not adequate for us. Hopefully someone has figured this one out, it seems simple enough as I can see you are able to use formula in a data tag however getting specific heights of say a ceiling from FFL is proving to be difficult. Thank you Data Tag-Level example.vwx

Hello, Thank you for the reply. So it looks like:; 1. Currently when i distribute it for other users in the company to utilise it sits within a symbol which we use for dedicated rooms. Since that uses the symbol insertion point. Now looking at it, this might be the main issue. 2. The model view is not normally on; as people bring this into their projects and amend on top plan the majority of the time. 3. Once brought into a project even after everything is deleted it remains the same. 4. If i refresh it does nothing. - Additionally when the project is at a rotated view when set in real world coordinates it does the same thing from time to time. Not always. However! when i simply bring it into the majority of projects it does work outside a symbol and can be amended easily after continued use. I think the main issue is the symbol but as mentioned above it does sometimes turn out like this when in rotated view when working in real world coordinates. (Georeferencing).

Hi, I need some help with this is, its very frustrating... I keep having the issue with this marionette, it should be very simple. The idea is a simple extrude along path created by a custom profile that you can amend. The issue is the first image where with some files once ive used the file and worked on it for a while it sometimes does not create the 3D model, showing 2D lines that i only want to see on plan. The second image is what happens when i bring this tool into a fresh project with next to nothing in the document. An easy modelled bulkhead that i can change the length and profile (The way its supposed to work). Im stuck, i must be doing something wrong here. Or is this just a bug... Bulkhead.vwx

Hi, How far have we gotten with this? I understand that VW 2021 now has the new 'Material feature' which can add more relevant data to every component but i haven't heard or seen anything to really push this segment further other than this new feature? It would be absolutely amazing if VW had the ICE database available for materials to utilise throughout. As right now Revit seems to be in the lead here and our company don't really want to utilise another software package when VW has this potential sadly if this doesn't progress we will have too. Is there going to be an update here?

Hi, Thank you for the feedback, I did exactly that. I removed the change vertex/ get vertex and unchecked smooth and it works nicely.

Haha...Thank you, much appreciated.

Hello, Just hoping someone can take a look at this, I am trying to make a bulkhead that is controlled by a path with the corners set to a sharp corner not rounded. See attached file. Thank you all for your time. Bulkhead control.vwx

Fantastic, good to know. Thank you for the fast reply. Very much appreciated.

Hello, Is anyone getting errors like this? For VW2020 Marionette when converting from VW2019 So if im mistaken then please dont mind me. Im getting the issue with my Marionette plugins after ive converted from V2019 to V2020. If im reading this right, then the Marionette.py has changed and it cannot call the function to the node. I still consider myself a novice, still learning as i go along so please call me up on it. Please see files attached> i have attached the 2019 version and 2020. Im just trying to figure this out so the company can start using these for V2020. Thank you all very much. Marionette FOH Straight Booth Seating-V1 INDEV.vwx Marionette FOH Straight Booth Seating-V1 INDEV v2020.vwx

Hello, We are looking to improve our worksheets to utilise marionette. Right now we just want to use an existing worksheet template and then amend the worksheet by resetting the column widths to Zero once it finds the totals of any column through out the worksheet. Has anyone found a way to amend existing templates? To customise the template for any project it's thrown into. Thank you

Hello, I am in the middle of assigning IFC within the script to the marionette objects i'm making but ive come across this issue where if i attach a "Custom property Set" it cannot assign more than one specific field at a time. Im not sure if im doing this wrong. If i am then i can correct this and follow that method going forward. I dont understand what could be the issue as i am able to assign multiple property sets within the IFC however when it comes to assigning my "Custom property sets" it just gives an error message and only maps one field. See attached. Thank you. Marionette Custom assign IFC pSet.vwx

Hello, Im coming across this allot and ive had a few work arounds but this is a very simple marionette for a linen room which should not have any issues really. Either I am fundamentally doing something wrong or it could be a bug. It can create a group from the script but again when it makes a Marionette object (PO) it destroys itself. Im hoping someone can take a look at this as ive found this happen a few times for other items i have made. If it's something i am doing then i can nip it in the bud and correct my own errors before i progress further with marionette. Thank you all again for your help. BOHUnitExample.vwx

Thank you both, ive managed to get the hang of it, now just figuring out the asset. Ive followed Alan's file for now, but will look into the move command for the extrude along path. This was great to learn. Thank you again. See attached progress. Office Desk.vwx

Ah I think i get it now, its just ordering the coordinates in a sequence then feeding it into the next action in that order. Ok thats great thank you. I actually found a problem further from this while working on the extrude along path. I am trying to set height for this desk so i can then place legs, i cant seem to figure it out. Can you give a Z location to an extrude along path? Or am i just not getting it. For now ive just placed it into a symbol and given the symbol a height. Thank you agin for all this.

@Marissa Farrell Thank you, very much appreciated. It wasn't making any sense to me, now i know it was just a bug i can continue with the extrude along path ideas. Few things on my mind now, i was hoping to create the profile by marionette by composing lines instead of having the profile in the Vectorworks document i understand the compose node has issues now but until thats resolved is their another way to make it? Finally I have never considered using the ordered list node like this, i'm finding it hard to understand how this works is it possible for you to explain this?. Thank you again.

Hello, I am very new to marionette ive made a few that are working fine. Now I am testing out the "Extrude along path" I am not sure if I have understood it fully. Could someone take a look? I am trying to just generate a line and have the capability to control the line lengths. It makes the group item, however I cant seem to get it to work as a marionette object. Thank you Marionette-ExtrudeAlongpath-OfficeDeskCounterTop.vwx

Hello, I've managed to get back onto scripting and sifted through examples online then made a script which changes the cell text in a worksheet from a design layer pull down menu. However when i select the worksheet image and recalculate it, it then repeats. If i select the individual cell and hit enter it executes once and works fine however the rest of worksheet does not update because the criteria is set to use the cell's result from the script as the layer name to look for. Thankfully i've had allot of references on here to refer to but i'm very new to this so i totally understand if it is not laid out correctly. Any suggestions, anyone? Thank you Test Worksheet script.vwx

Hello, Is there a way of creating a section viewport without navigating to it immediately after creation? I am trying to create multiple section viewports to then arrange on 1 sheet layer. Is there a way of creating more than one section viewport at a time, removing the tediousness of constantly having to navigate back to the design layer to repeat the process again? I suppose it would be a bit like the "navigate back to” aspect of an existing viewport, only in reverse. I don’t believe “Create Viewport” can do it either, which is frustrating when I want to create multiple viewports. Thank you

Hi, This sounds like your doing everything right, unless its a class issue that looks like a visual bug, i would recommend forwarding that to Vectorworks

Hi, It might be worth checking if the tag your using has the correct tag fields assigned to them to pull that record data. Resource manager> Right click (Your Selected Data tag)> Select Edit > "Edit Tag Layout" ( At bottom) > Select the Text > (On Shape Tab) Select "Define Tag Field" at bottom From this check that the calculated field is showing the correct record you want. If this still persists it may be worth following above and make a new Data tag just incase by duplicating what you have to keep your existing data tag layout. Hope this helps

Hi, As far as I am aware through trial and error I have found it is not possible to attach Data tags to Symbols holding custom record data within a Symbol from the Sheet layer Viewports annotations. Is their a way to do this that i'm just not aware of? So far i have not found a solution, this tool has allot of potential i would have assumed that this would be possible already. Please see example file attached. Thank you Example Data Tag.vwx

Hi again, Would it be possible for someone to whip up a quick example of how to script this so i can start, ive been trying to understand scripting and i cant seem to get my head around it. Ive been trying to figure out how the scripting logic works and learning python from UDEMY however i feel i still have a long way to go. Any takers?