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@ASagatovVW , your first guess would be right. Setting the navigation graphics to "good performance and compatibility" got it working. Thanks!
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I'm having trouble with seating sections not responding on screen to the layer opacity setting in sheet layer viewports. When exported to PDF they render correctly though. Here's an example with screenshots from the PDF and what I see on screen.
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I would also like to know what you're doing wrong because I'm experiencing the same behavior.
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On 12/3/2018 at 5:08 PM, sbarnett said:
you are not alone in this. Had an issue where I have a truss Structure with fixtures attached. Rotate Structure to apply a rake. Do not like the angle I chose undo and only the fixtures move Truss Stays Rotated and Locked in Position. Only Revert to Save corrects.
Yep, I've run into it a few times since then. Every time requires restarting Vectorworks before undo works properly again.
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SP2 for me has completely broken undo for Spotlight objects. For example, here's a simple move operation on a projector and a rectangle:
If I then try to undo I get this:
Edit: VW crashed and after restarting undo appears to be working fine.
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Are you using the stock pre-2019 seat symbols? If so that could be what's causing your performance issues.
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It looks like this has been addressed in 2019. The new seating symbols consist of around a dozen objects rather than the hundreds that they were in 2018.
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Ok, wow... You're right. This has been a major pain point of mine for quite a while now but it never occurred to me to look at the symbol itself. This would explain why seating sections always seemed to perform better in 3D than in 2D. Anyway, like you I greatly simplified the stock seating symbol and now that same sheet layer only takes around a second to draw. More importantly the PDFs that I'm sending to clients are now a bit smaller and take a fraction of the time to load.
Thanks, Jim!
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41 minutes ago, Jim Wilson said:
I have some files with significant seating layouts in them I can test and file a performance bug on for this with.
Thank you!
15 minutes ago, Andrew Davies said:I get that a lot with seating layouts. Hadn’t realised it was a possible bug as even PDFs generated from the same sheet layer as the seating section takes a while to load.
Seating sections have always been slower than just using symbols but this is far worse than it used to be. Just to clarify... the video I linked shows the same action happening simultaneously. In VW18 it takes 7 seconds to switch from one sheet layer to the next and draw all the seats while in VW19 it takes 17 seconds.
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1 hour ago, Jim Wilson said:
Do you happen to see this same slowness switching between any sheet layers, or only on the viewports that contain seating layouts/sections? (if you have any, that is)It appears to be an issue with seating sections. I tried another project with similar complexity but with seats as symbols rather than seating sections and it switched between sheet layers nice and quick.
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Panning on sheet layers is definitely faster in 2019 but switching between sheet layers now takes a very long time on my machine. Here's a comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY5YsgWLQB8&feature=youtu.be
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I agree with @Andy Broomell on the need for a hue slider. Other than that this looks fantastic.
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On 7/10/2018 at 8:29 PM, Texasguy said:
Just entering data in the seating section tool takes forever!
The seating section tool is particularly dumb the way it redraws with every single keystroke. This morning I wanted to create a 100x300' section of banquet tables but before I could select the symbol I want first it insists on drawing 11,800 seats all crammed in next to each other as though I'm trying to make a 30,000 square foot chair warehouse. Then after I select the table symbol it again has to draw the area with all of the tables just touching each other... and then it keeps redrawing with every single digit I enter for the spacing parameters. And then on top of all this on my PC the seating tool performance took a huge hit in 2018 and apparently nobody has any thoughts on how to fix it.
Ok, sorry for the rant. I'm just a bit frustrated after spending so much time fighting with this tool... I would just give up but for some reason my clients want seats at their events.
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Is there a way to do the banquet layout from previous years in 2018? Here's what it used to look like in 2017. Note that the tables for one row are centered on the space between tables from the previous row.
The closest thing I can find in 2018 is "offset rows" but that centers the tables on the edge of the previous row's tables rather than the center of the gap.
Is there an option for this somewhere that I'm missing?
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How predictive of Vectorworks performance are the Cinebench OpenGL numbers? The ancient 2GB HD6950 I have at work scores 82 while at home my 8GB RX480 scores 113. This is a 38% increase which seems like a pretty modest difference for two cards that have nearly six years between them. Does Cinebench simply not have a use for the full 8GB on my 480?
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On 12/18/2017 at 8:15 AM, Asen Valchev said:
I mean the Seating Section just calculates the points and the rotations of the seat symbols, but the rendering is responsible for drawing them.
There's definitely a performance hit that comes with the seating section tool. Drawing those same 1800 seats without using the seating section tool takes around half the time. Here's a comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy-LYY8tdj0
On 12/18/2017 at 8:15 AM, Asen Valchev said:Try the same procedure(changing from 3D to top/plan) with a file that has a lot lighting devices for example. What are the results?
Same test with an array of 1800 lighting instruments showed no change between 2017 and 2018.
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Since upgrading to 2018 the seating sections have been drawing very slowly in the 2D plan view. It was always a little sluggish in 2017 but now I find it pretty much unusable for anything exceeding 1000 seats. Is this normal behavior or is there a problem with my configuration or hardware?
Here's a comparison between 2017 and 2018.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJFmg7xGHZ0
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Just to partially answer my own question I did the same comparison on my Macbook Pro. Here the difference between 2017 and 2018 is negligible.
Lit Fog in Panoramas
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I'm having some trouble getting lit fog to render correctly in panoramas in VW2020. In standard viewports it renders just fine:
However when I render the panorama with the same Renderworks style it has some pretty glaring artifacts 180 degrees away from the fog. In this example you can see the wheel of the car on the far left side with fog coming out of it which extends around to the far right side of the image as well as a bright white spot directly in front of the car.
The bright white spot is completely absent in a normal viewport:
Am I doing something wrong or is this just a bug in the panorama function?