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  1. @ubybc I see what you are doing now. Instead of redrawing the truss vertically I would use the hanging angle command located in the mode bar at the top of the screen and choose a hanging angle of 90°. This will insert the truss vertically and you do not have to redraw the 3D. I would then take the legs you want to use and delete the 2D geometry so that you have a 3D only symbol and this will allow you to snap using the 3D loci and rotate the legs into place for visual purposes. It is just a thought as a lot of users aren't aware of the possibilities of the Hanging Angle option.
  2. @ubybc Those symbols were drawn and provided by Tyler themselves. All we did was add the classing and the Braceworks connection points. I tried attaching the legs using the insertion point loci located on the leg symbols and the truss symbols and it looks like everything was placed correctly in both Top view and 3D views. I have added a screenshot of the 5' section of truss showing the placement from the front and this was done by inserting loci to loci.
  3. @ghunter I have attached a screenshot showing what L1, L2, and L3 correspond to on a corner. I have also attached a down and dirty file with a 10° wedge that is properly setup for you to use. There is no 3D truss geometry on this object, it is just an extruded polyline but it is 10° corner that will snap. Hopefully, if you need more angles you can use the example as a guide to layout your other angles. In the meantime I am going to contact Cosmic and see if I can get drawings for this hinge so that it can be added to the libraries. I know that Vectorworks does not support hinges but at least there will be geometry that users can adjust if desired. F34 10 Deg Corner.vwx
  4. In case anyone is interested I have attached a file with the Christie Lites Type B bars setup to work with the Type F truss and end plates. This is a recommendation from the Christie Lites website. Christie Lites Type F Gates.vwx
  5. @LiamSayer Is there anyway that you can post your file so someone can have a look?
  6. @RGyori Thanks for bringing this to our attention. It has been noted and we will take care of the fix.
  7. Not a problem. If you are a member of Service Select you can also request a fixture to be built using the Spotlight Fixture Request Form under the support tab of the Service Select page.
  8. @Mason2152 I took a look at your file. You had no values entered in beam angle 2 and field angle 2. Vectorworks needs all four values in beam and field angle in order to draw the cone correctly as one value determines vertical spread and the other determines horizontal spread respectively. I have attached your file again corrected. Baby Color Test Fixed.vwx
  9. There is a new wheelchair in the May 2019 VSS release under Entourage>Vehicles>_Mobility Vehicles that also has the ADA turning radius class with a circle. There are also some mobility scooters in there as well.
  10. @ghunter I tried your setup as well and I could not get a calculation just like you experienced. I was able to successfully get a calculation if I added a third piece of truss to make a "T" shaped truss rig. I will submit this as a bug so that it can be explored. If you are using the corner block just to add a short piece of truss and not as a corner I would make it a straight piece of truss so that it can calculate properly. If you are looking to make "T" style junctions it appears to be functioning properly. As far as the vertical rig you are creating which is on screen left of your images Braceworks will not calculate a vertical structure at this time. The only way to get it to calculate is to make the angle 89.99° and add a third motor to the bottom so it looks like a box that is very tilted. I know that this is not ideal or how it is done in the real world but engineers are exploring the idea of calculating vertical truss structures. I have attached a screenshot of how I was able to get the corner to calculate.
  11. At this time Braceworks does not support hinges or variable truss junctions. What I have recommended users do is to use one of the existing hinges and create custom angled corners to suit specific needs. As long as the symbol is setup correctly and there is a cross section calculations will be able to be performed.
  12. @Brent.A I just sent you a DM with a file that should help you out.
  13. @Brent.A Is is possible to post a video so I can see what you are experiencing? You can DM me if you wish.
  14. I am fixing that Christie corner for you now. I noticed that you set the type as 4 Way which will not work because Braceworks uses Type to connect to like "types" of truss. I am going to use 4 Way in the name for that corner and use the XSF, and Christie Type A as the types that can connect to it. Also, that corner may be designed for 12x12 box and the structural is 12x12 but there are gusset bolt plates on it so the physical dimensions are also bigger than 12x12 and these have to be accounted for when setting everything up. When I have it working properly I will DM you the file.
  15. Yeah. Just DM me and I will take a look at it.
  16. I used the Christie Lites library that is in the Vectorworks libraries as it is no longer on Service Select exclusively and is included with VW2019 and it connected properly for me. If you switched the cross section you may have to set the corner up again to be a six way connection. You could send me the file if you are able and I can take a look. I have attached a photo of what I was able to achieve using the Christie corner straight out of Vectorworks and with Christie straight pieces of truss.
  17. I do not believe they manufacture a 10' piece. We only drew what was given to us and there is not a 10' listed on their website.
  18. Christie Lites Type A is a 12"x12" box that has all of the cross section data and has a 6 way corner with data as well as some wedges and several common straight lengths. That seems to be what a lot of users are turning to in the absence of the truss with data such as Thomas and Tomcat.
  19. We were only given the geometry and not the structural data and that is the reason for it being missing. This is a common theme with the US manufacturers and we have found that the only way to try and get the data is to have users/customers contact the manufacturer and explain that you need the data in order to use the Vectorworks symbols properly or you may switch to another manufacturer that has the data in the software. Kind of like the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Now, I can say that I have spoken with XSF and they are working on getting more geometry to us as well as getting the engineering reports that we need in order to enter the data correctly. The load tables that are provided online do not provide enough information for our structural engineer to create the cross sections.
  20. At this time XSF have not given us the cross section data therefore that is why it is not appearing in the customize pallet. If you know the data you can create a custom cross section and apply that to the symbol. Keep in mind though that a custom cross section is only retained within the working document so if you transfer those symbols to another document the cross section will revert to Rigid and you will have to enter the data again. We are in talks with XSF about getting the data and more libraries but I cannot give a timeframe at this time as to a release date.
  21. At this time vertical loads are not supported with Braceworks and this even applies to hanging loads; not just ground supported. The FEM error is telling Braceworks that the load is not properly balanced. I even did a test with the frame at an angle of 89.9° instead of 90° to see if I could trick the system into calculating as the truss would not be 100% vertical as a workaround to help. The only way I was able go get a calculation with no errors was to hang two additional motors on the bottom truss so that Braceworks can see the other side is supported and that is definitely not how that would be rigged in the real world. I have attached the screenshot but I know this is not the answer you were looking for. I know that the engineers are looking into adding this functionality in future releases if possible but at this time a timeframe is unknown.
  22. I would recommend to contact them and voice your frustration. Sometimes the "squeaky wheel gets the grease" approach can help to show a manufacturer that they need to be more forthright with their data or risk losing customers to other manufacturers that are sharing weights and structural data.
  23. Keep in mind that the Tyler Truss symbols do not have cross section data and are missing some of the weights. We have tried to get the necessary data from them but have been told they are not willing to release it to us at this time.
  24. There are libraries on VSS for Orange Amps and some generic drum kits. There are more backline type items in the works to be released on VSS.
  25. @FinchProduction It looks good to me! Good use of the hanging angle to get the strange serpentine like shape. Let me know if you have any other truss questions and like I said above, there are more Prolyte circles being developed for future release.
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